2012 NFL Draft-QB Prospects (Chapter 5)

Big C · 01-15-2012, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tstat0822

How about Kirk Cousins in burgundy and gold? i feel like he's that under the radar guy that the skins can pick up

i dont think so. i personally see him as nothing more than a backup/game manager.

redsk1 · 01-16-2012, 10:00 AM

For a little perspective from SI. Here is the deal for Eli Manning: A 1st and 3rd in the draft year and 1st and 4th the following year. Seems like alot but they are reaping the benefits of having a very good qb. They picked 4th that year. Of course, I guess they could have stayed at 4 and picked up Rivers/Rothlesberger. I guess if you like a QB, you gotta go get him.

Accorsi offered the Giants' first- and third-round picks in '04, and an '05 first-rounder. "We still want Osi,'' Smith told him.

Tick, tick, tick ...

Two minutes left.

Accorsi's last, best offer.

"No Osi,'' he said. "That's still a deal-breaker. But we'll throw in a six next year.''

Pause on the line from San Diego.

Tick, tick, tick ...

"Make it a four,'' Smith said.

"I'll give you a five,'' Accorsi said.

Read more: Eli Manning, Osi Umenyiora key New York Giants' upset over Green Bay Packers - Peter King - SI.com

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 04:11 PM

Mike: Right now it’s easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. There’s no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means you’re convinced the player will be elite. If you’re not convinced, don’t do it. There’s nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If that’s Griffin, get him and don’t hesitate.

JK

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redsk1 · 01-17-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Mike: Right now it’s easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. There’s no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means you’re convinced the player will be elite. If you’re not convinced, don’t do it. There’s nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If that’s Griffin, get him and don’t hesitate.

JK

Read more at the Washington Examiner: Redskins mailbag: Ask John | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

Keim is excellent. Great perspective, seems to know his stuff.

skins89moss · 01-20-2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Ladies and Gentlemen, Chandler Harnish from his senior year.
Chandler Harnish: 2011 MAC MVP - YouTube

I know it's a highlight tape, but impressive for a guy nobody is talking about yet.

I see one concern is he does not taking any snaps from under center so this will hurt him when scouts look at the tape. He will be a late round project.

skins89moss · 01-20-2012, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Ladies and Gentlemen, Chandler Harnish from his senior year.
Chandler Harnish: 2011 MAC MVP - YouTube

I know it's a highlight tape, but impressive for a guy nobody is talking about yet.

I guess he does not take any snaps from under center in his college offense. This will hurt his draft stock.

44Deezel · 01-20-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bsteinel

Wait a year and draft Barkley

Starting to sound like a pretty decent option. Imagine what the team would look like next year with 8-10 new draft picks and another round of free agency. Would be a great situation for someone like Barkley to walk into. Won't happen, but wouldn't be the end of the world.

T.O.Killa · 01-20-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Starting to sound like a pretty decent option. Imagine what the team would look like next year with 8-10 new draft picks and another round of free agency. Would be a great situation for someone like Barkley to walk into. Won't happen, but wouldn't be the end of the world.

Yeah, it would look like a team that was 0-16, to assure they get Barkley. It would be criminal not make a move to get a QB. I hear allot of we have to get my guy. I will be happy as long as we get one of the three guys that have been discussed. Matt Flynn, Payton Manning, or RG3. If not, I will be upset. Maybe there is a guy that makes sense, that we don't know about. But aside from that, they better get one of them.

T.O.Killa · 01-20-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

2012 1st rounder
2012 3rd rounder
2013 1st rounder
2013 3rd rounder

for RGIII??? I'd do it.

I would do it if we could not get Flynn or Manning. I think the Redskins should be talking to the Rams now, and trying to get a trade done prior to free agency. I am not sure that is within the rules, but if they are going to rely on getting RG3, they better have that 2nd pick rapped up before free agency.

SmootSmack · 01-20-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah, it would look like a team that was 0-16, to assure they get Barkley. It would be criminal not make a move to get a QB. I hear allot of we have to get my guy. I will be happy as long as we get one of the three guys that have been discussed. Matt Flynn, Payton Manning, or RG3. If not, I will be upset. Maybe there is a guy that makes sense, that we don't know about. But aside from that, they better get one of them.

Yeah like maybe someone like Sam Bradford?

T.O.Killa · 01-20-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah like maybe someone like Sam Bradford?

I think that will never happen, but trumps everything, other than a completely healthy Manning.

NYCskinfan82 · 01-20-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah like maybe someone like Sam Bradford?

Stop it SS your getting me excited, it's way to early for that.

SmootSmack · 01-20-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Stop it SS your getting me excited, it's way to early for that.

I'm just throwing out a wishful guess is all

NYCskinfan82 · 01-20-2012, 12:28 PM

Do you think the price to trade up for Bradford would be less than RG3?

SmootSmack · 01-20-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Do you think the price to trade up for Bradford would be less than RG3?

Probably yes.

01-16-2012, 10:00 AM	#77
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: 2012 NFL Draft-QB Prospects (Chapter 5) For a little perspective from SI. Here is the deal for Eli Manning: A 1st and 3rd in the draft year and 1st and 4th the following year. Seems like alot but they are reaping the benefits of having a very good qb. They picked 4th that year. Of course, I guess they could have stayed at 4 and picked up Rivers/Rothlesberger. I guess if you like a QB, you gotta go get him. Accorsi offered the Giants' first- and third-round picks in '04, and an '05 first-rounder. "We still want Osi,'' Smith told him. Tick, tick, tick ... Two minutes left. Accorsi's last, best offer. "No Osi,'' he said. "That's still a deal-breaker. But we'll throw in a six next year.'' Pause on the line from San Diego. Tick, tick, tick ... "Make it a four,'' Smith said. "I'll give you a five,'' Accorsi said. Read more: Eli Manning, Osi Umenyiora key New York Giants' upset over Green Bay Packers - Peter King - SI.com

01-16-2012, 04:11 PM	#78
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Re: 2012 NFL Draft-QB Prospects (Chapter 5) Mike: Right now it’s easy to be more intrigued by Griffin than anyone else. My preference: getting the best QB you can find is the option. If that means trading up for Griffin, then do it. Shanahan is not one to settle for a guy if he thinks he can land an elite player. There’s no guarantee with any player, but having to trade a couple picks for a guy I think can really play would not be a deterrent. To trade up high in the first round means you’re convinced the player will be elite. If you’re not convinced, don’t do it. There’s nothing the Redskins have needed more for a long time than a franchise QB. If that’s Griffin, get him and don’t hesitate. JK Read more at the Washington Examiner: Redskins mailbag: Ask John \| John Keim \| NFL \| Washington Examiner __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

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