10 thoughts on the draft

freddyg12 · 02-24-2012, 03:06 PM

Roger Staubach was a 27 yr. old rookie, he had a pretty good career. I like Weeden, and his age is a plus for about 5-6 years, provided he can play in the nfl. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the mid 1st a la Ponder form 11.

GTripp0012 · 02-24-2012, 03:19 PM

I wouldn't trivialize Weeden's age by suggesting he could have an 8 or 9 year career as a starter. I mean sure, if he sets the Redskins all-time passing yards record as a rookie and makes the pro bowl, that becomes a pretty reasonable projection for his career path, but what are (realistically) the chances of him doing that?

If you take Weeden, the concern is in the here and now: what can he give you in 2012 and going into 2013? After that, you have a 31 year old QB who you are working year to year with. If you take Weeden and your thought process is "we're good at QB for at least the next six years" I think you're doing it wrong.

When you've won 11 games in 2 years, the only draft pick that matters is a draft pick that can help you win 10 or 11 games in this upcoming season.

los panda · 02-24-2012, 03:43 PM

i like weeden a lot more than tannehill

NYCskinfan82 · 02-24-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

My heart dictates that I want us to draft a big player maker ie RG3 or Blackmon, but my brain hopes we do what we did last year if neither of those is available at 6 and trade down to gather more solid picks while picking up a solid, yet potentioal stud 1st rounder like Kerrigan wound up being. After the teams successful job of scouting last year and making each pick count, I wonder what magic they can pull out of their hat this year but these next 2 months will be interesting. At least we'll see some pieces fall into place when free agency opens up in a couple weeks to appease us a little bit.

Good post, tradeing down is becoming my answer more & more now.

redskins5044 · 02-24-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

i like weeden a lot more than tannehill

so do Trent and Fred.

NYCskinfan82 · 02-24-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

so do Trent and Fred.

Ruhskins · 02-24-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

so do Trent and Fred.

Evilgrin · 02-24-2012, 04:20 PM

Is Weeden ready to play now? If he isn't, he should be a low pick. A 28 year old rookie that needs time to adjust to the NFL. Anyways, I think the Weeden hype concerning Shanahan, is way to obvious to be real insight in to what he(shanahan) is gonna do. Hes said alot of good things about some other guys at the Senior Bowl also.

Hog1 · 02-24-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Roger Staubach was a 27 yr. old rookie, he had a pretty good career. I like Weeden, and his age is a plus for about 5-6 years, provided he can play in the nfl. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the mid 1st a la Ponder form 11.

I didn't know that.
But.....Weeden the Dodger? I don't see it

Hog1 · 02-24-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Roger Staubach was a 27 yr. old rookie, he had a pretty good career. I like Weeden, and his age is a plus for about 5-6 years, provided he can play in the nfl. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the mid 1st a la Ponder form 11.

I didn't know that.
But.....Weeden the Dodger? I don't see it

backrow · 02-24-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Good post, tradeing down is becoming my answer more & more now.

It's been my answer every time I think about the Kerrigan trade down from last year. Worked out pretty well for the B&G! I can't imagine giving away the farm again in order to move up. It's not BA's or Shanahan's way! Wouldn't you rather get the farm than give up the farm? Too many holes to fill.

Mattyk · 02-25-2012, 10:41 AM

My guess is trading back is probably plan C at this point. I think they're going to do everything they can to trade up for RGIII or Luck.

SBXVII · 02-25-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've gotten the impression they like Tannehill and Foles more than Weeden

I'd heard or read this also but it was MS who liked Tannehill and Foles and it was KS who liked Weeden.

SBXVII · 02-25-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I wouldn't trivialize Weeden's age by suggesting he could have an 8 or 9 year career as a starter. I mean sure, if he sets the Redskins all-time passing yards record as a rookie and makes the pro bowl, that becomes a pretty reasonable projection for his career path, but what are (realistically) the chances of him doing that?

If you take Weeden, the concern is in the here and now: what can he give you in 2012 and going into 2013? After that, you have a 31 year old QB who you are working year to year with. If you take Weeden and your thought process is "we're good at QB for at least the next six years" I think you're doing it wrong.

When you've won 11 games in 2 years, the only draft pick that matters is a draft pick that can help you win 10 or 11 games in this upcoming season.

1st highlight- throughout history QB's were expected to get drafted and hold the clip board for a few yrs or until the starter could no longer play and only then take over, when they knew the system inside and out. It's only a select few QB's who should or can come into the league and start immediatly and be Pro Bowlers their first year. I wouldn't expect Luck or RGIII to start and be in the Pro Bowl next year so I won't Weeden.

2nd highlight- we really don't know what any of them could give us in 2012 or 2013, but Weeden has the arm strength to make all the throws, has good technique, and places the ball where only the WR has a chance to get it... unlike Grossman. If he provides us with a few more 1st downs and atleast 1 more TD per game then the Skins should be leading their division. The Skins lost several games this year by only 7 or less points per game. If we can't get a top quality QB in the draft then lets go out and get top quality WR's for our QB to throw to.

3rd highlight- QB's can play well into their 30's and if great up to 40. As long as the team provides decent protection he will be fine. But there is a rumor out there that MS wanted Barkley so I can see us settling with Weeden this year and going all in next yr for Barkley especially if our season is only marginally better. MS will I think then feel the heat to do something for a major improvement or be fired afterward. I still think he's safe after this year. There was just too much that needed to be changed form the past.

SBXVII · 02-25-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

so do Trent and Fred.

It's ok there are a lot of people who probably like Peter Griffin III also.

See how childish it is?

02-24-2012, 03:06 PM	#16
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: 10 thoughts on the draft Roger Staubach was a 27 yr. old rookie, he had a pretty good career. I like Weeden, and his age is a plus for about 5-6 years, provided he can play in the nfl. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the mid 1st a la Ponder form 11.

02-24-2012, 03:19 PM	#17
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: 10 thoughts on the draft I wouldn't trivialize Weeden's age by suggesting he could have an 8 or 9 year career as a starter. I mean sure, if he sets the Redskins all-time passing yards record as a rookie and makes the pro bowl, that becomes a pretty reasonable projection for his career path, but what are (realistically) the chances of him doing that? If you take Weeden, the concern is in the here and now: what can he give you in 2012 and going into 2013? After that, you have a 31 year old QB who you are working year to year with. If you take Weeden and your thought process is "we're good at QB for at least the next six years" I think you're doing it wrong. When you've won 11 games in 2 years, the only draft pick that matters is a draft pick that can help you win 10 or 11 games in this upcoming season. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

02-24-2012, 03:43 PM	#18
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,852	Re: 10 thoughts on the draft i like weeden a lot more than tannehill __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

02-24-2012, 04:20 PM	#23
Evilgrin Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 464	Re: 10 thoughts on the draft Is Weeden ready to play now? If he isn't, he should be a low pick. A 28 year old rookie that needs time to adjust to the NFL. Anyways, I think the Weeden hype concerning Shanahan, is way to obvious to be real insight in to what he(shanahan) is gonna do. Hes said alot of good things about some other guys at the Senior Bowl also. Last edited by Evilgrin; 02-24-2012 at 04:23 PM.

02-25-2012, 10:41 AM	#27
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: 10 thoughts on the draft My guess is trading back is probably plan C at this point. I think they're going to do everything they can to trade up for RGIII or Luck. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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