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Old 03-10-2012, 08:30 PM   #541
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Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

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I have no major issues with the trade itself, outside of the fact that the Rams are clear winners and the Redskins are...well, they're on the side they always are. But in the context of the last three years, it says a lot about a lot. And I don't feel like the bad guy for stating the obvious.

The trade itself can be easily justified by the player who they traded for being the player they expect him to be. The problem is with the expectations. I feel a LOT better about the trade since outside observers have weighed in basically supporting the fact that this move works, schematically. Clearly, it's not just Shanahan on an island here with the Shanaclan fans, it's a lot of people who analyze the league for a living who think that when it's all said and done, this will work.

In general though, you don't want to get caught making trades that you basically can't win, and your intention is that if everything goes as planned, you won't look foolish. Noting ever goes as planned for these guys, which leaves me with reservation. But it's tempered reservation because: a lot of people who aren't the Shanahan's like this move and think that it's only a matter of time before Griffin is the most popular guy in town.
You can change your sig now, I think it's a given that Sav Rocca is no longer our best offensive weapon.

Also I kinda agree with Paintrain, as with any draft trades, or any draft picks in general, I think a minimum 3 year waiting period before declaring a winner makes sense. As of now the odds are in the Rams favor, but a lot can change once players take the field.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #542
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I have no major issues with the trade itself, outside of the fact that the Rams are clear winners and the Redskins are...well, they're on the side they always are. But in the context of the last three years, it says a lot about a lot. And I don't feel like the bad guy for stating the obvious.

The trade itself can be easily justified by the player who they traded for being the player they expect him to be. The problem is with the expectations. I feel a LOT better about the trade since outside observers have weighed in basically supporting the fact that this move works, schematically. Clearly, it's not just Shanahan on an island here with the Shanaclan fans, it's a lot of people who analyze the league for a living who think that when it's all said and done, this will work.

In general though, you don't want to get caught making trades that you basically can't win, and your intention is that if everything goes as planned, you won't look foolish. Noting ever goes as planned for these guys, which leaves me with reservation. But it's tempered reservation because: a lot of people who aren't the Shanahan's like this move and think that it's only a matter of time before Griffin is the most popular guy in town.
How can you conclude who won or lost a trade the day after it happened? If Bradford ends up not being that great and RG3 is an all pro QB then the Rams should have kept the pick and drafted RG3 for themselves. There are many ways it can play out...i just dont see how you can declare the rams the clear winner of the trade today. If RG3 is a great player he's worth double what they gave up and then some. The bottom line is this trade will be judged based on RG3's career and that has not even started yet...
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:35 PM   #543
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So.....#10......do we give him Jay Schroeders old number?
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:44 PM   #544
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Just finished reading all the post, only heard of the trade this afternoon, had a date nite with the Wife last nite long over due. I'm all in on this trade I wanted Bradford but I have NO problems with RG3. Did anyone see the PM press conference when he got released from Indy, Jim Irsay is an idiot Emmmm, RRRRRR, Emmmmm, RRRRRR, there's still a chance we get Luck although I want RG3 now.
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I've got no issues with the trade.. Even with what we gave up, we STILL have 20 picks over the next 3 drafts. People are acting as if we gave up our entire drafts for the next 3 years. I'm not trying to poo-poo the value of a 1st round pick but we've had plenty of first rounders over the past 2 decades and haven't done crap. Plus, I'm considering Jenkins the equivalent of our 2nd round pick this year since he's going to be a rookie essentially.

One of the things I said at the beginning of the offseason is that I was tired of settling at the QB position, either with retread veterans or with second tier rookies. This move was pushing all the chips to the middle of the table and going for it.

The next week will shape the franchise for the next 5-7 years. We have to get first round value/production in free agency at some key positions.

For the naysayers who think that RGIII has to be a Hall of Famer or take us to a Super Bowl in the next 3 years, its gonna suck to be you either way. If he's great, then you were flat wrong about 'wasted picks' or 'overpaying' or whatever else. If he's a bust or mediocre then you get to gloat about your favorite team not succeeding. I'll just choose to be positive and enjoy the ride.
Good stuff, nice read.
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Ok, my first ever post on the WP forums (yay!), and to commemorate it, I wanted to post the product of some late night photoshopping. Been wanting to put this together for a while now, and now that the trade has been made, I thought I'd finally do it. But first I apparently have to have 10 posts in the books, so here are a few quick ones before I can post the photo link...
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and a third post...(sorry, but I didn't make the 10 post rule)...
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:02 PM   #550
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...now post #4...by the way I too am very pumped about the trade up...
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:03 PM   #551
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...talk about something to look forward to for the coming season...
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and a third post...(sorry, but I didn't make the 10 post rule)...
Don't do this...legit posts only please.
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ok 5 more posts then I can post my kick ass artwork...sorry guys!...
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...but don't worry I think you'll all like what I put together...
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3 more, ugh!
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