Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-12-2012, 11:59 PM

or the Mcnabb trade. it is still a 50/50 chance at hitting on a player.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-13-2012, 12:08 AM

Fine I won't mention them John Beck, Dwayne Jarrett, Donnie Avery, James Hardy.

Lotus · 03-13-2012, 12:37 AM

We have a quarterback. We have a quarterback. gloat gloat gloat

skinsfaninok · 03-13-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I actually just found out that RG3's number 1 deep threat, Kendall Wright ran a 4.61 at the combine at 5'10. I can only imagine what this guy could do with someone like Vincent Jackson.

Defenses are not close obviously but Jackson and another wr with good speed will help a ton

GTripp0012 · 03-13-2012, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Fine I won't mention them John Beck, Dwayne Jarrett, Donnie Avery, James Hardy.

If we had drafted one of those type of 'talents' in the second round with the 39th pick, we would have failed to contend anyway.

A ROY type candidate out of that pick could have been the difference between contention and non-contention. Obviously, the probability of getting a guy like that with the 39th pick isn't very high to begin with, it is just now (barring some sort of lopsided trade in the Redskins favor) zero.

So the plan for contention before the Griffin trade was 1) upgrade significantly at quarterback, and 2) find one or two absolute studs in the 2012 draft (Trent Richardson/Morris Claiborne and maybe Kendall Wright in the second or Joe Adams in the third). After the Griffin trade, which figures to significantly (though unreliably, at least in year one) improve that QB position, the plan for immediate is to produce one of the great free agent classes of all time, and then do as well as humanly possible in the draft. Maybe make a trade that further mortgages the future.

Which just means that contention in 2012 gets a lot less likely unless Griffin has some sort of insane rookie year that blows Cam Newton and Andy Dalton out of the water. In which case: good trade.

FrenchSkin · 03-13-2012, 08:45 AM

Rookie question:
When we sign RGIII, do we have any idea for how long it's going to be? Is there a "basic-draft-contract" that guarantee a minimum of year in the franchise?
Because if we know we're going to keep him for at least 4 of 5 years, hell that's a great trade!

Mattyk · 03-13-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Rookie question:
When we sign RGIII, do we have any idea for how long it's going to be? Is there a "basic-draft-contract" that guarantee a minimum of year in the franchise?
Because if we know we're going to keep him for at least 4 of 5 years, hell that's a great trade!

4 years, 5th year options are possible but are supposed to be pricey under the new CBA

FrenchSkin · 03-13-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

4 years, 5th year options are possible but are supposed to be pricey under the new CBA

Thanks. And here what do you think is most likely to be signed?

Paintrain · 03-13-2012, 04:35 PM

Trade has been submitted to the NFL by the Rams and is now official. See updated sig!

Hog1 · 03-13-2012, 06:02 PM

....Cool

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 03-13-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Trade has been submitted to the NFL by the Rams and is now official. See updated sig!

Why hasn't this trade been made official yet?

What's the hold up?

Anyone?

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 03-13-2012, 10:33 PM

Why don't I see the Rams trade being made official on any major sites? Is it such a formality that they are not even reporting it, or is there a hold up?

NYCskinfan82 · 03-13-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Why don't I see the Rams trade being made official on any major sites? Is it such a formality that they are not even reporting it, or is there a hold up?

Somebody posted earlier that it has been approved.

Mattyk · 03-13-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Why don't I see the Rams trade being made official on any major sites? Is it such a formality that they are not even reporting it, or is there a hold up?

Redskins-Rams Trade: Rams Officially Announce Trading Of No. 2 Overall Pick to Redskins - SB Nation DC

happy?

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-13-2012, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we had drafted one of those type of 'talents' in the second round with the 39th pick, we would have failed to contend anyway.

A ROY type candidate out of that pick could have been the difference between contention and non-contention. Obviously, the probability of getting a guy like that with the 39th pick isn't very high to begin with, it is just now (barring some sort of lopsided trade in the Redskins favor) zero.

So the plan for contention before the Griffin trade was 1) upgrade significantly at quarterback, and 2) find one or two absolute studs in the 2012 draft (Trent Richardson/Morris Claiborne and maybe Kendall Wright in the second or Joe Adams in the third). After the Griffin trade, which figures to significantly (though unreliably, at least in year one) improve that QB position, the plan for immediate is to produce one of the great free agent classes of all time, and then do as well as humanly possible in the draft. Maybe make a trade that further mortgages the future.

Which just means that contention in 2012 gets a lot less likely unless Griffin has some sort of insane rookie year that blows Cam Newton and Andy Dalton out of the water. In which case: good trade.

Blowing Andy out of the water should be at least the goal to surpase for our rookie QB. If you check his numbers they are not that great. If this guy is as good a fit as everyone says he will be and as good as he is touted to be then he should well surpass Dalton. We will see.

I have said this before, there will not be a rookie QB for a long time who puts up Newton numbers, and there won't be a QB in the league that puts up Newton's rushing touchdowns any time soon except for maybe Newton.

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FrenchSkin Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Paris, France Posts: 90	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft Rookie question: When we sign RGIII, do we have any idea for how long it's going to be? Is there a "basic-draft-contract" that guarantee a minimum of year in the franchise? Because if we know we're going to keep him for at least 4 of 5 years, hell that's a great trade! __________________ Is there another french fan of the redskins?

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Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,533	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft Trade has been submitted to the NFL by the Rams and is now official. See updated sig! __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

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Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,413	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft ....Cool __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 272	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft Why don't I see the Rams trade being made official on any major sites? Is it such a formality that they are not even reporting it, or is there a hold up?

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