Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

WaldSkins · 03-17-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Random question which has an assumptive answer but not a known answer as of now; What if Robert Griffin says he doesn't want to play for us?

I dont think that would be an issue with a high caracter person like Griffin. I mean where exactly would he wanna play if not here? We are a much better option then other QB needy teams like the Browns, Dolphins, and Jags.

GTripp0012 · 03-17-2012, 03:16 PM

My question was more pertaining to the compensation in the trade than to the player. If Robert Griffin looked like Donovan McNabb for four years, I think he's pretty safely going to get that second contract.

But outside of "we'll take it", well, duh, we have no choice now. But would you have traded three firsts and a second to take a guy who ends up having Donovan McNabb's career, or would it have been better to keep the picks and see whats behind the mystery door that is the career of Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, or Kirk Cousins?

The point is, none of those guys (maybe Foles or Cousins, but I digress) is "likely" to enjoy a career like Donovan McNabb's career. Griffin's got a decent chance. At least that's the expectation. But would you cash in a multi-time pro bowl career for the chance to draft a guy who could do just as well or better, and still have three first round picks (or two firsts and a second, if Tannehill)?

Swarley · 03-17-2012, 03:19 PM

Yes, I'm tired of the mystery door.

GTripp0012 · 03-17-2012, 03:20 PM

Because obviously if Griffin ends up in the Hall of Fame, there wasn't a price that was too large to pay for that.

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Originally Posted by GreekSkin

Yes, I'm tired of the mystery door.

Gotcha. That's fair, especially with the "decisions" we've seen Shanahan make at quarterback the last two years. No more guesswork, lets cash in now.

I get that. A team with a good personnel guy gets much more value out of the picks. But the Redskins? They might very well get more out of Griffin.

Lotus · 03-17-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What if it gives us a guy who has Donovan McNabb's career?

I would be happy for a few years of DMac in his prime. However, if that is what we get, we will not have gotten full value in the trade. But maybe we get more than just DMac in his prime. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

But DMac is not the true yardstick since we can't draft him. The real question is, will the difference between Griffin and Tannehill be worth 2 #1's and a #2? For the sake of my mental health, I am just going to assume for now that Griffin will be A LOT better than Tannehill. Don't be surprised to hear me crow in a couple of years if this completely blind assumption proves wrong.

diehardskin2982 · 03-17-2012, 05:35 PM

I don't see the ceiling of RGIII being Donovan McNabb. The way i see it he is more like Steve Young and if he can perform like Steve did under Shanahan then I will be completely okay with the trade.

diehardskin2982 · 03-17-2012, 05:43 PM

I don't know how to link in vids

Steve Young Highlights:

Steve Young career highlights. - YouTube

Robert Griffin III college Highlights:

Robert Griffin III - 2011 Heisman Winner (Highlights in HD) - YouTube

GTripp0012 · 03-17-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I don't know how to link in vids

Steve Young Highlights:

Steve Young career highlights. - YouTube

Robert Griffin III college Highlights:

Robert Griffin III - 2011 Heisman Winner (Highlights in HD) - YouTube

If Young is your comparable then the challenge for the Redskins will be to not trade him after three seasons when they haven't won anything as a result of the pick. Or he could save our team in the next three years and the discussion is moot.

Hog1 · 03-17-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If Young is your comparable then the challenge for the Redskins will be to not trade him after three seasons when they haven't won anything as a result of the pick. Or he could save our team in the next three years and the discussion is moot.

Do you feel like the current regime has done this......

IrMitchell · 03-17-2012, 06:38 PM

RG3 is absolutely comparable to Young.
Our supporting cast isn't comparable to what Young had however.

skinsfaninok · 03-17-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IrMitchell

RG3 is absolutely comparable to Young.
Our supporting cast isn't comparable to what Young had however.

hey! we have jerry rice right??

NC_Skins · 03-17-2012, 07:28 PM

Out of all the QBs I hear RGIII compared to, Steve Young is the one I would compare him to. A pocket passer who's legs give him the ability to make plays by passing on the run and by tucking it and running.

Comparing him to Vick, Young, Tebow, Cam is laughable at best(not sure if anybody has). I can't begin to state how happy I am knowing this guy is going to be a Redskin.

skinsfaninok · 03-17-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Out of all the QBs I hear RGIII compared to, Steve Young is the one I would compare him to. A pocket passer who's legs give him the ability to make plays by passing on the run and by tucking it and running.

Comparing him to Vick, Young, Tebow, Cam is laughable at best(not sure if anybody has). I can't begin to state how happy I am knowing this guy is going to be a Redskin.

I compare him to Cam but only from a leadership and confidence stand point

Mechanix544 · 03-17-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I compare him to Cam but only from a leadership and confidence stand point

They both have big arms as well./ RG3 is much more agile and quick though, and is much more of a pure passer than Cam, although Cam can definitely take more punishment. Im curious to see how Griffin throws into tight windows. If he can do that and make his reads, this guy is gonna get real good, real quick.

CultBrennan59 · 03-17-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I dont think that would be an issue with a high caracter person like Griffin. I mean where exactly would he wanna play if not here? We are a much better option then other QB needy teams like the Browns, Dolphins, and Jags.

True but when you compare teams, you'd think San Diego would be no problem for some QBs, but apparently New york is a better place to go...

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03-17-2012, 03:16 PM	#827
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft My question was more pertaining to the compensation in the trade than to the player. If Robert Griffin looked like Donovan McNabb for four years, I think he's pretty safely going to get that second contract. But outside of "we'll take it", well, duh, we have no choice now. But would you have traded three firsts and a second to take a guy who ends up having Donovan McNabb's career, or would it have been better to keep the picks and see whats behind the mystery door that is the career of Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, or Kirk Cousins? The point is, none of those guys (maybe Foles or Cousins, but I digress) is "likely" to enjoy a career like Donovan McNabb's career. Griffin's got a decent chance. At least that's the expectation. But would you cash in a multi-time pro bowl career for the chance to draft a guy who could do just as well or better, and still have three first round picks (or two firsts and a second, if Tannehill)? __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

03-17-2012, 03:19 PM	#828
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 1,035	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft Yes, I'm tired of the mystery door. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

03-17-2012, 05:35 PM	#831
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,925	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft I don't see the ceiling of RGIII being Donovan McNabb. The way i see it he is more like Steve Young and if he can perform like Steve did under Shanahan then I will be completely okay with the trade. __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

03-17-2012, 05:43 PM	#832
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,925	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft I don't know how to link in vids Steve Young Highlights: Steve Young career highlights. - YouTube Robert Griffin III college Highlights: Robert Griffin III - 2011 Heisman Winner (Highlights in HD) - YouTube __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

03-17-2012, 06:38 PM	#835
IrMitchell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 629	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft RG3 is absolutely comparable to Young. Our supporting cast isn't comparable to what Young had however. __________________ One of Canada's two Redskins fans.

03-17-2012, 07:28 PM	#837
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,407	Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft Out of all the QBs I hear RGIII compared to, Steve Young is the one I would compare him to. A pocket passer who's legs give him the ability to make plays by passing on the run and by tucking it and running. Comparing him to Vick, Young, Tebow, Cam is laughable at best(not sure if anybody has). I can't begin to state how happy I am knowing this guy is going to be a Redskin. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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