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Old 03-09-2012, 11:13 PM   #106
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I don't like what we gave up. But in reality no one truly knows how RGIII will be as an NFL QB or how the Rams picks will turn out for at least a season or two. As of this very second, the score is 0-0...stay tuned.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:13 PM   #107
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Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB!
I'm embarrassed we root for the same team. Are you going to be rooting for the Redskins to lose games this year too?
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But you were not right. You did not predict 3 #1's and a #2. Smug without a cause are you.
And Veldheer's sack against came in a D-II playoff game. So he was was only right on that one on a technicality he wasn't aware of.
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So is it offical that its 3 firsts and a 2nd? Or might be we be getting a later round pick(s) somewhere too?

I mean, I wanted RGIII, I'm happy we got him... think it's too much, no doubt...
I have seen some people say 2nd. Other say the 2nd isn't finalized yet. I hope like shit it's not....
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Dude Cult U called it I'll say that but lets get back to RGIII
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I get sick of hearing how deficient this team is currently. Think about our games last year. If Grossman and Beck wasn't our QB we could've easily won probably 5 more games.
You must have missed a lot of drops by our receivers, or the terrible O line play due to starters being injured, etc. Fred Davis, Fletch, Kerrigan and Helu were our heroes last season, that was pretty much it. Hightower was fine till he got banged up, then he broke his leg. Just before he broke his leg he was only getting 2 ypg his last two games. Also, I think our starting O line isn't really all that hot. Throw in the probability of losing Landry and Fletch and well you have a lot of holes, especially if they trade Orakpo to try and get some picks back. Now we have to pray we find another Cooley gem or two in the mid to late rounds this season to actually make the 2-7 rounds worthwhile.
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Stupid. You just traded away 3 badly needed starters for one. What happened through getting more picks like NE and building steadily. This kid isn't a Manning or Elway or Luck type out of college. He is a very good QB no less, but played in a weakend Big 12 that happens to be defensively deficient most of the time. Snyder has done it again, got the fans snagged on the hot sexy pick, hoping it will pan out. I think BA and Shanny are feeling the heat so they went against the plan to save their asses. I like RG III a lot, but 3 first rounders for a still unproven commodity at the NFL level is not wise.
I agree. Someone else in this draft or in free agency is going to turn out to be a better QB and the team who didn't give everything up to get that QB will be more successful. Flynn, Tannehill, Weeden, Cousins, etc. Do we even know Cleveland was a threat? If they got Flynn, we would have been in the driver's seat. This seems like a move of the previous regime. Competing against themselves.
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Glad we got RGIII! But will he be able to handle this Ricky Williams level pressure to perform, since so much was traded to get him?
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That was actually specifically for you (the veldheer thing) cause that always stuck in the back of my mind and I was going to politely bring that up to you on a draft board but like I said I'm so amped right now I'm jumping around like a kid at christmas that we got griffin. Predicting the NFL is 50-50. I think we all can go on this board and point out the he's right/you're rights about so many subjects.
Neither of us is anywhere near 50-50.
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You must have missed a lot of drops by our receivers, or the terrible O line play due to starters being injured, etc. Fred Davis, Fletch, Kerrigan and Helu were our heroes last season, that was pretty much it. Hightower was fine till he got banged up, then he broke his leg. Just before he broke his leg he was only getting 2 ypg his last two games. Also, I think our starting O line isn't really all that hot. Throw in the probability of losing Landry and Fletch and well you have a lot of holes, especially if they trade Orakpo to try and get some picks back. Now we have to pray we find another Cooley gem or two in the mid to late rounds this season to actually make the 2-7 rounds worthwhile.
Always a glass half-full kinda guy huh?
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:18 PM   #116
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In my thinking... there are 3 unique factors that FORCED the Skins into 3-1st Round Picks:

A) The Browns - We just HAPPENED (our luck) to be competing with a team who had 2 1st round picks when we are trying to trade up. Bad coincidence... this drove the asking price up.

B) Peyton Manning - Apparently, Peyton Manning was not going to be a backup/fallback option and our whole FO & Staff knew we NEEDED one of the "big 3 (Luck, RGII, Manning)"... this drove our buying point up.

C) WR Position - We just happen to be shopping for a top-teir FA WR at the same time as this scenario is playing out. This means we had to make a deal early, before free agency starts. Hard to sell a WR on a team with no QB... The flip-side is, the cost goes up BECAUSE free agency hasn't started, with FA QB options landing with teams competing for the #2 pick.

Ouch. 3 bad coincidences that just happened to hit us as this trade played out.

I say... hey... they realized they had to do what they had to do to get their guy. I hate losing the 2nd round pick the most, though... but... hey...

WE HAVE A REAL HOPE AT THE QB POSITION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LOOOOOONNNNGGG TIME!!! LET'S CELEBRATE THAT, NOT WHAT THE FUTURE PICKS "MAY" HAVE BEEN!!
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I agree. Someone else in this draft or in free agency is going to turn out to be a better QB and the team who didn't give everything up to get that QB will be more successful. Flynn, Tannehill, Weeden, Cousins, etc. Do we even know Cleveland was a threat? If they got Flynn, we would have been in the driver's seat. This seems like a move of the previous regime. Competing against themselves.
I disagree. I think Cleveland had legit interest, which definitely helped drive the price up. I just hope it's not confirmed that the 2nd round pick is included in the deal, we could really use that pick to help RG3 out this year.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:20 PM   #118
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One thing this deal does for us, getting it done now, is give us some leverage with courting potential free agents, especially a big time receiver.

Gotta figure out how to shore up the D and the O-line as well...not going to be easy.

But hey, chances are RG3 will be a good one for some time, but dang...can't get over the price. Hopefully this time next year I will be over it
We need to shore up the O line to ensure he stays around for us. I would hope O line is the top FA priority now. If we don't shore it up this offseason we need to start Grossman again maybe so RG doesn't get killed until we have a decent line in place. That is my main line why I am bitching about the steep price. We really need to find 2-3 starting linemen soon. Trent is the new Tre Johnson, but at towards the end of his career, oft injured.
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RG III would have to be a lot better than Elway, Favre, Young, Marino, to to win with our team as it stands right now. We basically put all our eggs in one basket ala Shuler way back when. Thing is if RG III is a dud, we don't have a Frerotte or Trent Green to at least keep us somewhat competitve. Beck and Grossman suck!
But sometimes you have to go all in. RGIII is not going to be a dud. And the redskins finally have a potentially great qb. In the nfl, a great qb and a great defensive line may be all you need. It could be argued that- that's what the giants had this year.

It appeared to be true- Shanahan would be fired if he didn't pick up RGIII or Manning- or by some miracle another qb would have been able to play well enough for redskins to get into the playoffs.

What would you have done in Shanahans place?
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