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Old 03-25-2012, 03:17 AM   #76
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Re: Draft Strategy after the first round

i think a rb w our 3rd is a poor use of the pick. if a rb is chosen, i'd rather it be w the last pick we have. but i don't want any to be drafted.

i wouldn't mind if we only drafted ol and db, wouldn't mind at all
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:29 AM   #77
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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;899861]Our needs are CB, FS, RT, G depth, ILB depth, Slot WR, 3 string RB, Backup QB[/QUOTE

I think the order of teams for the Skins are S, RT, G, Depth at LB, CB. We can get a RB off the scrap heap and if all else fails sign Hightower to a one year deal and the cut him if he does look good in the preseason.

I really don't see what everyone sees in him. Yes he was good in the preseason but he only average 64.2 yards a game in 5 regular season starts. The young guns can do that.
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Imagine him rounding out our RB by committee.
Like I said before, I think him and Helu are comparable. Sure, LaMichael James was more electric in college, but Oregon's offense would spread out a DEF so there were always good lanes for him and isn't he smaller too? Not sure he'll be as dynamic without a good OL. I for one, was really tired of our RBs not having any running lanes. Way too many 1 yard carries. Where LaMichael would have to be drafted, if he dropped, would be in the third round and I'd like to see us pick a starting calibre RT, maybe CB if Boykin Drops. Three RBs fighting over touches could render them all pretty ineffective too.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:34 PM   #79
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Re: Draft Strategy after the first round

I looked at our situation a little closer and found that my initial assessment of what to do might not be the smartest idea.
Before I say what I am nearly convinced we are going to do (if not trades...but I assume there will be trades....) I want to say some points that lead me to my conclusion.
*Players we unsuccessfully looked to replace this offseason- Brown, Lichtensteiger
*Players that will not be back after this year-Hall, Moss, Fletcher (I know he's not signed yet)
*Players that we are not sold on to start-Merriweather, SS position, Barnes
*Our OLB depth is non-existent

-2013 free agency draft class sucks at ILB, G, T, but is decent at S at CB

I say that ILB is our number one priority in this draft, and then any offensive linemen is our number two. CB, S, and OLB are going to bring up the rear.

Our positions of need are not in that priority as we will have brown and if we want him, lichtensteiger next year, but our only corner we are confident in is Wilson, we know we don't like our SS situation, and our FS (Merriweather) is risky at best. But! we will be unable to upgrade at T/G/ILB next offseason while it seems like it should be very attainable to get fillers at DB. Because we have no picks until the 3rd round, I do not think our draft picks will have a big impact this year (with the possibility of an ILB or possibly a SS if we find good value), so this is a draft more for the future than anything.

I'd say we are certainly drafting an ILB with one of our first two picks this year, and with the other pick I'd guess a lineman but am leaving open the possibility of a Safety because although I want to draft for the future, Shanny might want Safety help now.

I'd guess that with our first 4 picks 4/5 of the positions I am going to mention will be picked. ILB, G/T, S, CB, versatile/athletic LB who we are going to switch between two positions.

There are only three ways (assuming no trades) I see me getting this wrong. Those are if we draft 2 O-linemen in the first 4 picks, if Shanny decides to draft a RB (he loves that...but I have a feeling he won't this draft), or if Fred Davis doesn't seem to want to sign an extension with us (but I think he wants to) we could very likely get a TE.

Really to sum all this up. I see the positions in free agency that we signed players to long term deals on as us crossing that position off the draft board. The positions that we looked to attain anyone but didn't land anyone long term (ILB, DB, OL) are the positions I think we will draft. Our non-existant OLB depth just means that we almost have to draft someone. I normally do not like targeting positions in the draft, but when you have as little talent and few draft picks as we do, you need to pick your picks based off of what we are not able to get in free agency.

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Old 03-28-2012, 04:01 PM   #80
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I believe that we will work the board in this draft. I say the plan going in will be to trade down. Probably from our top pick in the 3rd to the middle of the 3rd for a 5th.

That being said, Shanny seems to covet players that he wants. If someone that he thinks is amazing value at a position of need value slips, I see shanny deviating from his original plan and trading up to get that player.

I'd say odds are 60% we work the board down in the beginning and/or up later; 20% we move up past our first pick, 20% we move down and then stay put.
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im all about trading down for more piks. basiclaly when you get into the third and fourht, its mostly value picks and id rather have a ton of picks when you consider the shotgun effect and pray that more than one works out.
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Old 04-01-2012, 03:10 AM   #82
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LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers (3/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

*Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (?/?).

So far those are the reported pre draft visits we have had.
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LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers (3/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

*Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (?/?).

So far those are the reported pre draft visits we have had.
Well at least we are showing we have a clue bringing in 2 sleeper safeties. From what ive read McCray is shooting up draft boards.
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:01 PM   #84
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Mike Shanahan has said that the last minute cap space reduction penalty imposed by the NFL had a negative impact on the Skins' FA plans. He gave no specifics, but I'll make the mental leap and assume that we weren't able to fill as many needs as we wanted to fill in FA. In my mind, that has to affect the way we draft this year.

I had the idea that we would load up in FA and fill the remaining needs with far fewer drafted players than we added last year. The idea would be to try to move up in the draft and grab higher-rated players at fewer positions.

But now I think that the draft landscape has dramatically changed for the Skins. We're going to be adding a top prospect at QB who will play as a rookie, we traded away our 2nd round pick, and we got hosed in FA by the NFL. All of this means that the Redskins' timetable for world domination has been pushed back and that Mike Shanahan has bought at least one more year beyond 2012 as HC, assuming that he doesn't flop miserably this season.

Now, I'm thinking that our 2012 draft may look a lot like our last draft with the Skins trading down for more picks and trying to find some diamonds in the rough.
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i think a rb w our 3rd is a poor use of the pick. if a rb is chosen, i'd rather it be w the last pick we have. but i don't want any to be drafted.

i wouldn't mind if we only drafted ol and db, wouldn't mind at all
The Redskins definitely need a young ILB, a RT, and a young safety. What I like about this coming draft is that it is rich in right tackles. It would be essential that the Redskins draft a RT in the 3rd round.
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Does anyone **cough Smoot cough** know if we plan on trading some players for late round picks during the draft this year?
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Does anyone **cough Smoot cough** know if we plan on trading some players for late round picks during the draft this year?
No info at the moment.

I'm in off-season mode anyway, so consider me "on vacation" until I've decided my off-season has ended
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No info at the moment.

I'm in off-season mode anyway, so consider me "on vacation" until I've decided my off-season has ended
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No info at the moment.

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