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Old 04-27-2012, 11:25 PM   #301
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Thats the general rule: If you like the guy you should take him. Your assumption that he will be there later may not come to pass: you don't know if he will be there later or not. You can ASSUME but you really don't know. If you like him and the next option available is significantly worse, then it is smarter to take him now while you can and accept the criticism for taking him "too early" vs. risking losing him because you knew he would be there later.
I agree but the gambler in me says throw the dice. I think to be a truly great GM you have to peek in your shorts on draft day to see if you have a pair.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:31 PM   #302
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You're right the months of research has paid off on guys like Dennis Morris, Terrence Austin, and Selvish Capers. Why wouldn't I think every pick will pan out just like the FO hopes? I should never question Bruce & Co. If it weren't for them, I'd have to read draft magazines and look at draft websites. What a waste of time that would be. I could never get those few seconds back. I'm glad I have Bruce Almighty to base my opinions on.

I'm not saying you're wrong with questioning the redskins draft picks in this current regime, but comparing the LeRibeus pick to one 6th rounder and 2 7th rounders is not a proper comparison. Plus Terrence Austin, as a 7th rounder, has actually been a contributor to the the team.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:37 PM   #303
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Barring a trade, Lamar Miller is a possibility as everyone above the Skins except the Texans have drafted a RB this year.

I think CB will be the next pick.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:41 PM   #304
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Hell, the Skins got a C grade from Pete Prisco so he can't be that bad...That's like an A- at least
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:43 PM   #305
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He apparently lost 70 pounds his senior year, are you kidding me. What th hell did we pick?
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You're right the months of research has paid off on guys like Dennis Morris, Terrence Austin, and Selvish Capers. Why wouldn't I think every pick will pan out just like the FO hopes? I should never question Bruce & Co. If it weren't for them, I'd have to read draft magazines and look at draft websites. What a waste of time that would be. I could never get those few seconds back. I'm glad I have Bruce Almighty to base my opinions on.
Um, their research led them to wait out for those guys you mentioned until the very late rounds, rounds in which most of the players taken in those rounds do not last long in the NFL.

Now, if you had read the projections on Capers, he would have been a FOURTH rounder, not a 7th. The FO thus defied "the masses" desires and avoided a reach.
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I agree but the gambler in me says throw the dice. I think to be a truly great GM you have to peek in your shorts on draft day to see if you have a pair.
Lol. I like taking risks too - calculated risks. The best thing about risk taking is that sometimes you win. The bad thing is that sometimes you lose. If you lose, what is the consequence of losing? If the consequence is too high, then you had better not go "all in" especially if the wife and kids depend on that cash. I do however think that it is a flaw not to ever take calculated risks, especially if you can live with the consequence of losing. I am assuming that the possibility of him not being there later was too heavy a consequence for the FO but I really don't know without being there.
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need to get a ILB and DB
Why? Here's what we got in LB's:
London Fletcher
Lorenzo Alexander
Keyaron Fox
Rob Jackson
Bryan Kehl
Ryan Kerrigan
Brian Orakpo
Perry Riley


Cornerbacks/Safeties:

Tanard Jackson
Leigh Torrence
Madieu Williams
Cedric Griffin
Brandon Mariweather
Josh Wilson
Brandyn Thompson
Domonique Johnson
DeAngelo Hall
Phillip Buchanon
Travon Bellamy
Kevin Barnes
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Hell, the Skins got a C grade from Pete Prisco so he can't be that bad...That's like an A- at least
We get an A grade just for getting RGIII alone.

Fun fact about the Packers' draft in 2005 is that only three of the guys they picked were worth a damn during their Super Bowl run: Rodgers, Poppinga, and Nick Collins. But no one seems to be saying they didn't draft well in 2005.
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Phillip B is still on the team?
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He apparently lost 70 pounds his senior year, are you kidding me. What th hell did we pick?
A shift from a relatively sedantary lifestyle due to not being able to play football for a year to getting back into the athelete's regiment(and getting away from mom feeding him). I see nothing particularly concerning here.
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Why? Here's what we got in LB's:
London Fletcher
Lorenzo Alexander
Keyaron Fox
Rob Jackson
Bryan Kehl
Ryan Kerrigan
Brian Orakpo
Perry Riley


Cornerbacks/Safeties:

Tanard Jackson
Leigh Torrence
Madieu Williams
Cedric Griffin
Brandon Mariweather
Josh Wilson
Brandyn Thompson
Domonique Johnson
DeAngelo Hall
Phillip Buchanon
Travon Bellamy
Kevin Barnes
LB depth is a concern. 4th rounders and lower are likely depth players, they should at least be open to taking a LB just to get another option to look at. Corners, on the other hand, probably won't make a big difference compared to the ones we already have.
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Guy could work. A trade on the smaller side but he could overcome it. Watched some of his combine tape and he didn't really look athletic enough to play in the Z B S. But I am sure the scouts have watched more tape then I have.
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Guy could work. A trade on the smaller side but he could overcome it. Watched some of his combine tape and he didn't really look athletic enough to play in the Z B S. But I am sure the scouts have watched more tape then I have.
And Shanny coached him in the Senior Bowl.
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He's also got some size and ooomph. Seems like Shanny is higher increased his standards now that he doesn't have 8 games one mile above sea level and the NFC East is one bloodthirsty divsion on defense.
Not really. I mean the Cowboys secondary was apparently terrible last year and the Eagles remain committed to the wide 9, aka the worst defensive system in all of football. Redskins were pretty good but not great. The Giants were terrible until the playoffs came around.
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