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Old 04-30-2012, 04:00 PM   #166
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When Kirk Cousins is being talked about more than your 1st pick, your starting QB, Robert Griffin, then thats never a good thing to have, especially for a rookie.
We've been talking about RG3 for months now.

The Cousins talk will die down soon enough. There's no stopping the RG3 hype machine.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #167
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Oh my... I don't think I can discuss this with you anymore with what you just said about Rex and his pass progressions being better - even with his familiarity within this offense, but manages to automatically throw 2 interceptions per game. His pass progressions are the worst of any veteran in the league. He's good Rex bad Rex for a reason - if the play goes as expected it's good Rex, if something doesn't go well on a particular play - it's bad Rex.
Okay. Then don't discuss it with me.
But when you're not discussing with me do me this favor don't change my statements around about 'Rex and his pass progressions being better'
I responded and disagreed with your statement that Cousins provided more 'insight' on the progressions then Rex.
Rex knows the progressions in this offense he's just not a good QB.

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Trent Dilfer said that what Cousins does better than RGIII right now is go through progressions. That right now Cousins is probably a better red zone QB than RGIII for that reason.

Rex wasn't mentioned
That makes a lot more sense.
Cousins comes from a pro-style offense and has more experience with a rhythm passing offense where the drop back footwork is linked to progression reads.

The RZ stuff makes me go hhmmmnnn because Griff adds a whole different element in that area that could help generate TDs.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:04 PM   #168
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My concern is that the Shanahans might - - I said MIGHT - - not be well-equipped to deal with an on-the-field problem of that nature.............Hopefully it will not come to that.
I actually share that concern a little but then I remember watching the Baylor games.
And my most scientific analytical opinion overwhelms me again: Griffin is a stud.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:17 PM   #169
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Okay. Then don't discuss it with me.
But when you're not discussing with me do me this favor don't change my statements around about 'Rex and his pass progressions being better'
I responded and disagreed with your statement that Cousins provided more 'insight' on the progressions then Rex.
Rex knows the progressions in this offense he's just not a good QB.
Anybody that has familiarity of the playbook will KNOW the progressions of a pass play. It's the approach of handling and executing through the pass progressions - that's what appears to give Cousins the advantage and better insight of "pass progessions" over Grossman.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #170
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... like I said - Grossman's pass progressions are the worst by a veteran in the league. Whatever you want to call it - insight, approach, execution. He just doesn't do it well, whether or not he knows them are irrelevant -- apparently -- by his results on the field.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:27 PM   #171
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... like I said - Grossman's pass progressions are the worst in the league. Whatever you want to call it - insight, approach, execution. He just doesn't do it well, whether or not he knows them are irrelevant -- apparently -- by his results on the field.
I heard them compare RG3 to Cousins in terms of progressions but when did they talk about Grossman's progressions?
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:29 PM   #172
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I heard them compare RG3 to Cousins in terms of progressions but when did they talk about Grossman's progressions?
It's my opinion. That's what I'm discussing: my opinion.

If you want to get in on this discussion, then you are welcome to.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:30 PM   #173
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Cousins Pick A Mistake For Redskins? - ESPN Video - ESPN


I thought Skip Bayless had reached the pinnacle of stupidity, but I was wrong after viewing this segment. Guy simply needs to be fired. Bringing up race? Really? He's pretty much calling the Redskins fans racists(and Shanahan).

I used to think that the media only gave us shit because we were horrible, so now that we've changed everything, they are still on our nuts. At this point, it won't matter if we start winning Super Bowls because they are going to continue hatting.

It's sad Eric Mangini has to put him in place. /facepalm

I now remember why I don't watch those dumbass shows.
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Cousins Pick A Mistake For Redskins? - ESPN Video - ESPN


I thought Skip Bayless had reached the pinnacle of stupidity, but I was wrong after viewing this segment. Guy simply needs to be fired. Bringing up race? Really? He's pretty much calling the Redskins fans racists(and Shanahan).

I used to think that the media only gave us shit because we were horrible, so now that we've changed everything, they are still on our nuts. At this point, it won't matter if we start winning Super Bowls because they are going to continue hatting.

It's sad Eric Mangini has to put him in place. /facepalm

I now remember why I don't watch those dumbass shows.
Ugh, what a douche. This crap is just painful. Skip is the king of tinfoil hats.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #175
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I admittedly was stunned at how "normal Eric Mangini is. I hated, hated, hated, when ESPN hired him. But he's arguably been one of the better additions in a while, in my opinion.

Skip's argument was ridiculous
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #176
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It's my opinion. That's what I'm discussing: my opinion.

If you want to get in on this discussion, then you are welcome to.
Maybe I read this wrong then, but it seemed like you said it's what the experts are saying

http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...tml#post914088 (Kirk Cousins pick 4.7)
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #177
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:05 PM   #179
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

We have been talking RG III since the end of last season, so why not a little break about our future backup or even potential starter if something bad happens to Robert? RG III has been talked about for months, and the talk is quite old til we see him suit up and practice. Virtually every facet of us getting him and his abilities, etc has been talked about pretty much. The draft hype will die down hopefully in 2-3 weeks. The NFL draft has to be one of the most overhyped events in the history of sports. Only a fraction of these guys will be starters, much less make the 53 man roster, but they manage to lay it out over an entire weekend..
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:13 PM   #180
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Maybe I read this wrong then, but it seemed like you said it's what the experts are saying

http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...tml#post914088 (Kirk Cousins pick 4.7)
Yeah, you are reading it wrong. I'm using what the experts said (Cousins' strength:pass progressions, a safe assumption I hope) to back up my opinion.

Man, I hope I worded THAT right. What are you actually discussing with me? ... Semantics?
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