Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

Kindoy · 05-01-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah, according to YOUR scouting reports. My guess is the other teams reports didn't quite jive with yours.

"guys like"

exit0 · 05-01-2012, 05:13 PM

Personally, I'm 50/50 on this pick and pretty much agree with lots from both sides. One idea that I think is totally absurd is the opinion that the Skins should have drafted a "bad" QB to groom as backup? Makes no sense... you gotta get the best players on the team as possible. And its not like anybody was saying Cousins is the next Aaron Rodgers.

While I like the pick to have hopefully two really good QBs who are YOUNG and not passed their prime like McNabb was, I might have preferred like many here that they would have drafted where there was more need and then get another QB in the later rounds or next year.

BTW... Skip Bayless is NOT an idiot and First Take is an excellent program for those who actually watch the whole show and not just short video clips. However, Skip was definitely wrong on this and made a big deal out of nothing imo. And to bring in the race card where there is none with this issue was really ridiculous as both Mangini and Stephen A. Smith told him.

SmootSmack · 05-01-2012, 05:21 PM

First Take has become a shell of what it once was. Too much talent is being wasted there and I know there's a lot of frustration

As for Cousins, when are we getting the avatar???!!!!

Kindoy · 05-01-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Most 4th round picks are lucky as hell to make the squad so how is a 4th round pick "a lot to spend on someone"?

A 4th rounder becomes "a lot to spend" when you have a rookie quarterback (or two) to go along with no first round picks in the next two drafts

SirClintonPortis · 05-01-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kindoy

I'd agree with that but finding depth at QB could have been done differently, especially when depth at other positions is more pressing. Guys like Bobby Massie and Joe Adams could have developed into big contributors, where as Kirk may never take a snap if RGIII pans out like we'd imagine. I'd just hate to see us miss out on a good player because we drafted an insurance plan.

What ifs can be played with every prospect. No prospect is doomed to failure or guaranteed for success on draft day because there is simply no way to know that. It's that inbetween called "possible"; every pick is based on measuring the probability of someone panning out. They believed Kirk was the guy with the better probability to make it rather than guys at another position.

JoeRedskin · 05-01-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

First Take has become a shell of what it once was. Too much talent is being wasted there and I know there's a lot of frustration

As for Cousins, when are we getting the avatar???!!!!

I have only watched it recently. And every time I have watched it, I've seen 1 or 2 good guests on it and wondered why they would appear on a show with such an idiot like skip bayless.
I have only seen him on this show and, each time I watched, he was a complete ass.

SirClintonPortis · 05-01-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kindoy

A 4th rounder becomes "a lot to spend" when you have a rookie quarterback (or two) to go along with no first round picks in the next two drafts

That doesn't change the quality of players you find in that round. They are still the lesser prospects, no matter how much you or the team wants them to be 1st round caliber players.

JoeRedskin · 05-01-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kindoy

A 4th rounder becomes "a lot to spend" when you have a rookie quarterback (or two) to go along with no first round picks in the next two drafts

Which is all the more reason to get the quality depth now for the most important position on the team. Now, rather than trying to find a decent backup quarterback in future drafts, we can focus on skill positions and linemen. All the while developing a solid backup.

Hog1 · 05-01-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

First Take has become a shell of what it once was. Too much talent is being wasted there and I know there's a lot of frustration

As for Cousins, when are we getting the avatar???!!!!

Summo took a day off?
Heard he was.....Bentley shopping

30gut · 05-01-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

....let's just say I hope Cousins will be able to or he was a mistake to draft...............Try twisting the words in those last 2 sentences.

I hope so too.
If Cousins reaches his potential he'll be a better back-up then Grossman and ulitmately be tradeable commodity.
I've said it before I hope Cousin can become the back-up QB this year, it unlikey that a rookie QB wins the back-up job but it happens.

BTW-I didn't twist your words you did that all by yourself

Kindoy · 05-01-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

That doesn't change the quality of players you find in that round. They are still the lesser prospects, no matter how much you or the team wants them to be 1st round caliber players.

Doesn't change the quality but it changes the quantity. More picks = more chances to get good depth.

Kindoy · 05-01-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Which is all the more reason to get the quality depth now for the most important position on the team. Now, rather than trying to find a decent backup quarterback in future drafts, we can focus on skill positions and linemen. All the while developing a solid backup.

I guess I just feel that we should've focused on skill/lineman in the post RG3 rounds this year since we had a QB in the bag and skill/lineman depth became a more important need IMO

Kindoy · 05-01-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

What ifs can be played with every prospect. No prospect is doomed to failure or guaranteed for success on draft day because there is simply no way to know that. It's that inbetween called "possible"; every pick is based on measuring the probability of someone panning out. They believed Kirk was the guy with the better probability to make it rather than guys at another position.

True, but his what ifs or might's are things like "he might bring us a good draft pick" or "he might get on the field" and not just "he might be good when he plays". We don't even know if he'll get a chance to play. It's like we have to get passed one uncertainty in order to get to another one.

Dirtbag59 · 05-01-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Skip is a tool

Skip can't be a tool. Tools are useful. Skip on the other hand is not.

NC_Skins · 05-01-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I have only watched it recently. And every time I have watched it, I've seen 1 or 2 good guests on it and wondered why they would appear on a show with such an idiot like skip bayless.
I have only seen him on this show and, each time I watched, he was a complete ass.

I will not watch anything that Bayless is a part of and not because this particular thing(even though this is his crowning moment in douchebaggery). He's been a jack-wad forever and it really just takes away from the show. Unlike many people, I'll just stop watching a show once it becomes a crap.

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Skip can't be a tool. Tools are useful. Skip on the other hand is not.

This.

05-01-2012, 05:13 PM	#212
exit0 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Va. Posts: 85	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 Personally, I'm 50/50 on this pick and pretty much agree with lots from both sides. One idea that I think is totally absurd is the opinion that the Skins should have drafted a "bad" QB to groom as backup? Makes no sense... you gotta get the best players on the team as possible. And its not like anybody was saying Cousins is the next Aaron Rodgers. While I like the pick to have hopefully two really good QBs who are YOUNG and not passed their prime like McNabb was, I might have preferred like many here that they would have drafted where there was more need and then get another QB in the later rounds or next year. BTW... Skip Bayless is NOT an idiot and First Take is an excellent program for those who actually watch the whole show and not just short video clips. However, Skip was definitely wrong on this and made a big deal out of nothing imo. And to bring in the race card where there is none with this issue was really ridiculous as both Mangini and Stephen A. Smith told him.

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