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Old 05-07-2012, 01:33 PM   #301
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Do you take anything from the Coach KS and the movement of the eyes when he said his name.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #302
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:13 PM   #303
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Finding the Fits: Selecting Cousins a savvy move by Redskins - CBSSports
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:25 PM   #304
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The thing I love about Cousins is he's a guy that's not going to rock the boat. He'll compete and work his tail off with the full understanding that this is RG3's show. He really is a perfect guy to bring in as a backup. And if his time comes, I think he'll prove that teams missed the boat on him.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #305
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:37 AM   #306
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

Interesting article SS, I wanted to ask College FB fans about one statement in it though:

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But the fact that Kevin Kolb produced eerily similar numbers in his final season under head coach Art Briles at Houston (completed 67.6% of passes for 3,809 yards and 30 TDs/4 INTs) as Griffin did under Briles at Baylor (completed 72.4% of passes for 4,293 yards and 37 TDs/6 INTs) should serve as a warning that Griffin's ascent to NFL superstardom is not guaranteed
Do those numbers really seem eerily similar? a 5% difference in completions, in a college season seems different, in fact each stat seems to be significantly better and in Griffins favor. But maybe the difference in opponents makes up for that? Just wanted to get some feel from the college afficianados on the Warpath.

edit: I was curious about rushing as well, which the author left off, in their senior years, Kolb had a 1.4 yd rushing avg, and Griffin had a 3.9yd rushing avg. if anyone else cared.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:51 AM   #307
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Wouldn't Griffin opponents at a big 12 school be better than Houston's?
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:14 PM   #308
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Interesting article SS, I wanted to ask College FB fans about one statement in it though:



Do those numbers really seem eerily similar? a 5% difference in completions, in a college season seems different, in fact each stat seems to be significantly better and in Griffins favor. But maybe the difference in opponents makes up for that? Just wanted to get some feel from the college afficianados on the Warpath.

edit: I was curious about rushing as well, which the author left off, in their senior years, Kolb had a 1.4 yd rushing avg, and Griffin had a 3.9yd rushing avg. if anyone else cared.
IMO the reporter/writer was reaching numbers are not similar.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:31 PM   #309
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Wouldn't Griffin opponents at a big 12 school be better than Houston's?
Good comment. Playing Marshall and Memphis is not the same as playing Oklahoma and Texas.
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:25 PM   #310
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5% completion difference is college is huge. it's hard to get above 70%
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #311
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IMO the reporter/writer was reaching numbers are not similar.
Yeah not even close statistically and the comparison is not fair based on the different variables that each player faced. Basically this guy was really reaching. RG III is not even close to the same qb that Kolb is. He performed at a much higher level and brought multiple skills that Kolb doesnt posses to the table.

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Old 05-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #312
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The author is making the all to common fallacy of using statistics to measure talent.
By and large QBs are drafted for their physical skillset not their stats.
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Interesting article SS, I wanted to ask College FB fans about one statement in it though:



Do those numbers really seem eerily similar? a 5% difference in completions, in a college season seems different, in fact each stat seems to be significantly better and in Griffins favor. But maybe the difference in opponents makes up for that? Just wanted to get some feel from the college afficianados on the Warpath.

edit: I was curious about rushing as well, which the author left off, in their senior years, Kolb had a 1.4 yd rushing avg, and Griffin had a 3.9yd rushing avg. if anyone else cared.

Statistical comparisons between two players are mostly worthless without some sort of baseline to determine which constitutes a meaningful discrepancy and what isn't.

But even if two players are the "same" statistically, that does not mean they are "the same". This is because the stats are results affected by various factors. Different combination of contribution from factors can lead to the same result. It's a giant mess to pore through.

For example, passing yards can be treated as a function of QB physical ability, QB mental ability, WR quality, OL quality, etc.
Or in equation form:

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Passing yards = QB arm strength+ QB "intelligence"+ QB mobility + WR1 hands+WR1 speed+WR1 route running+WR1 intelligence +etc +error term
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #314
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IMO, anyone determining a player's potential or even ability mainly based on past stats should be shot. I know every quarterbacks' situation is different, and really that's my point.

Here's an example of 2 nfl quarterbacks' career qb completion %. the first one's retired and the second one's still actively playing.
1) 56.9% after 16 seasons
2) 60.8% so far after 6 seasons.

The first one's John Elway and second is Jason Campbell. So tell me now, how useful are these stats (just on their own) when determining playing ability and potential?
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IMO, anyone determining a player's potential or even ability mainly based on past stats should be shot. I know every quarterbacks' situation is different, and really that's my point.

Here's an example of 2 nfl quarterbacks' career qb completion %. the first one's retired and the second one's still actively playing.
1) 56.9% after 16 seasons
2) 60.8% so far after 6 seasons.

The first one's John Elway and second is Jason Campbell. So tell me now, how useful are these stats (just on their own) when determining playing ability and potential?
Very, if you know what you are doing and can use them responsibly.

So to you, they're basically useless.
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