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Old 04-29-2012, 10:50 AM   #61
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Hell, even though they were picked in different years, this is like Vick and Schaub or Rodgers and the pair taken in 2008. The backups who have no shot at making it as THE GUY on the team that drafted them but eventually might succeed elsewhere.
It really is scary how similar they are (Schuab and Cousins). Funny to think that in 3 or 4 years the Skins could go from having no capable QB's to having 2. All Cousins draft position did was seal the deal as he was picked 12 picks after the spot Schuab went in the 2004 draft (90-102).

Also the media attention might be a good thing because it introduces the fans to Kirk Cousins so down the road if he plays well in the preseason and then spot duty like Schuab and an owner wants to bring in a potential QB to appease the fan base or is thinking about approving a trade Cousins won't be a name out of left field.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:27 AM   #62
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Just asking here but for how long?I understand the logic here but how long do you think he(Cousins)will be happy as a back up,I'm sure he believes he's a starter in the NFL and will want a chance to prove it.I see a play me or trade me ....down the road.
Play me or trade me?

Not sure how much leverage a 4th round backup will have.

He's a smart kid, I think he understands his situation. There's a reason he went in the 4th round. No matter what team he went to he was going to be starting off his career as a backup.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:45 AM   #63
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I'm officially on board with the pick. He is immediately better than our other backups we've had minus RG0 and in a year he is probably better than him. If he really really pans out then he's a trade asset.
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Just asking here but for how long?I understand the logic here but how long do you think he(Cousins)will be happy as a back up,I'm sure he believes he's a starter in the NFL and will want a chance to prove it.I see a play me or trade me ....down the road.
He seems like a selfless guy who is willing to wait. Hence, I see no problems.
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Play me or trade me?

Not sure how much leverage a 4th round backup will have.

He's a smart kid, I think he understands his situation. There's a reason he went in the 4th round. No matter what team he went to he was going to be starting off his career as a backup.
No kidding! The guy may want to be a starter, but I expect all the other 4th round backups will too. He will probably understand now that his best chance to start will be to perform well when he gets a chance and get traded into a starting role elsewhere.

I think this trade is about two things:
1: Getting a great value pick that can be traded for more in the future.
2: Creating trade leverage. Bruce Allen is putting his trade partners on alert that they can't wait for the skins to skip on a player because they only draft for need. If other teams want their guy, pay up.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:03 PM   #66
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No kidding! The guy may want to be a starter, but I expect all the other 4th round backups will too. He will probably understand now that his best chance to start will be to perform well when he gets a chance and get traded into a starting role elsewhere.

I think this trade is about two things:
1: Getting a great value pick that can be traded for more in the future.
2: Bruce Allen putting his trade partners on alert that the skins aren't afraid to take value players when it is his turn. This creates trade leverage.



Hit the nail on the head. This pickup will net us at least a 3rd rounder in 2 or 3 years. Plus, you think watching RG3 and being coached by our QB coaches wont help this guy? If corn on the kolb can fetch a 2nd and a top CB after learning from McNabb, who knows what we will get after a few years of this guy in our system.

Kudos on the pick, wish we could have gotten him with our second fourth rounder, but I say it would have been a 50/50 proposition that he fell. Nice forward thinking pick. Qb has turned from a glaring weakness to a possible glaring strength on this team!!!!!!
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It really is scary how similar they are (Schuab and Cousins). Funny to think that in 3 or 4 years the Skins could go from having no capable QB's to having 2. All Cousins draft position did was seal the deal as he was picked 12 picks after the spot Schuab went in the 2004 draft (90-102).

Also the media attention might be a good thing because it introduces the fans to Kirk Cousins so down the road if he plays well in the preseason and then spot duty like Schuab and an owner wants to bring in a potential QB to appease the fan base or is thinking about approving a trade Cousins won't be a name out of left field.
Agree 100%... The media attention is beneficial; It's amazing that just 3-4 months ago, most didn't want Grossman back; we draft Cousins, and the ones who wanted Grossman out, are bitching about us drafting a better, and younger backup QB in Cousins. Did we need to draft him? Maybe not. But the dropoff in talent and prodution between the starting QB and the backup QB is pretty huge on most teams in the league. It's always good to have a backup who can, and has the potential to start and win you games. There are so many positives about this pick: In 2-3 years, we can trade him for a high draft pick, we don't have to worry about the backup QB spot for at least 2-3 years, which means no more signing Grossman to 1 year deals, it motivates and pushes RG3 to perform at a high level, and it saves Shanahan's ass and gives him and Allen an insurance plan/Plan B, if RG3's (I hope not) a complete fail. But to start, KIRK COUSIN'S IS RG3'S BACKUP WHO JUST HAPPENS TO BE DRAFTED IN THE SAME YEAR AS RG3 AND 100 SPOT'S LATER.
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very impressed with this guy, he should be great in the locker room
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Just for kicks, here is everyone who voted for RGIII/Rex in my likely QB combos poll (83% of total)

#56fanatic, 2BIG2BSKINNY, 44Deezel, Alvin Walton, ArtMonkDrillz, BDBohnzie, biffle, bigdaddy2348, BigHairedAristocrat, Bigreds77, BrudLee, Bubba305-ST21-, BuckSkin, celts32, ChickenMonkey, Chico23231, Cooley1, CooleyAsCanBe, cpayne5, CrazyCanuck, CRedskinsRule, CultBrennan59, Darrell_Green_28, Daseal, diehardskin2982, Dirtbag59, dmek25, donofriose, drew54, Drewsky27, Duffman003, dumpcm, DynamiteRave, ethat001, fevola, freddyg12, Frost, Gmanc711, GMScud, goskins424, GreekSkin, GTripp0012, GusFrerotte, hail_2_da_skins, Hokie Hacker, hondakiller, iRepDMV, IrMitchell, itvnetop, jbcjr14, jdlea, jkturtle23, JoeRedskin, Jontrem, jtoolh, Kapricek, kerrigan91, KI Skins Fan, Kindoy, Kope, los panda, Lotus, Mattyk, mbedner3420, Mechanix544, mooby, mredskins, MrGraham2004, musicmaster45, NM Redskin, NYCskinfan82, Paintrain, RedskinMike, Redskins247, REDSKINS4ever, Riggo44, RonBurgundy, Ruhskins, rypper11, sevier2, SkinEmAll, Skins fan 44, skins89moss, skinsfan57, SkinsGuru, skinsguy, skinster, SkinzWin, Son Of Man, SOUL-SKINS, spAtt, T.O.Killa, taylort, tc2deuce, TexSkins, That Guy, The Dull Roar, TheSmurfs22, TrustinGibbs, whistler, WillH, wordsmithgk, Wpath2012

And here is everyone who voted for Manning/Cousins (11% of total)

30gut, 72_Mr._Dexter, artmonkforhallofamein07, CapitalDefense, davy, FrenchySkin, Gtothearry, lohengrin, mlmdub130, Player_HTTR, skinsfaninok, SmootSmack, The Goat, WestCoastSkinsFan
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Fired Football Coaches Association

Just for kicks, here is everyone who voted for RGIII/Rex in my likely QB combos poll (83% of total)

#56fanatic, 2BIG2BSKINNY, 44Deezel, Alvin Walton, ArtMonkDrillz, BDBohnzie, biffle, bigdaddy2348, BigHairedAristocrat, Bigreds77, BrudLee, Bubba305-ST21-, BuckSkin, celts32, ChickenMonkey, Chico23231, Cooley1, CooleyAsCanBe, cpayne5, CrazyCanuck, CRedskinsRule, CultBrennan59, Darrell_Green_28, Daseal, diehardskin2982, Dirtbag59, dmek25, donofriose, drew54, Drewsky27, Duffman003, dumpcm, DynamiteRave, ethat001, fevola, freddyg12, Frost, Gmanc711, GMScud, goskins424, GreekSkin, GTripp0012, GusFrerotte, hail_2_da_skins, Hokie Hacker, hondakiller, iRepDMV, IrMitchell, itvnetop, jbcjr14, jdlea, jkturtle23, JoeRedskin, Jontrem, jtoolh, Kapricek, kerrigan91, KI Skins Fan, Kindoy, Kope, los panda, Lotus, Mattyk, mbedner3420, Mechanix544, mooby, mredskins, MrGraham2004, musicmaster45, NM Redskin, NYCskinfan82, Paintrain, RedskinMike, Redskins247, REDSKINS4ever, Riggo44, RonBurgundy, Ruhskins, rypper11, sevier2, SkinEmAll, Skins fan 44, skins89moss, skinsfan57, SkinsGuru, skinsguy, skinster, SkinzWin, Son Of Man, SOUL-SKINS, spAtt, T.O.Killa, taylort, tc2deuce, TexSkins, That Guy, The Dull Roar, TheSmurfs22, TrustinGibbs, whistler, WillH, wordsmithgk, Wpath2012

And here is everyone who voted for Manning/Cousins (11% of total)

30gut, 72_Mr._Dexter, artmonkforhallofamein07, CapitalDefense, davy, FrenchySkin, Gtothearry, lohengrin, mlmdub130, Player_HTTR, skinsfaninok, SmootSmack, The Goat, WestCoastSkinsFan


Can we STONE them.
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Everyone should of picked RG3/Rex, please don't pull-up any of my old post.
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very impressed with this guy, he should be great in the locker room
I actually loved the answer he gave to how he prepared for Georgia after Gruden told him the UGA DC was calling Saban asking him what he did to stop Cousins after which Cousins turned around and said he called Kellen Moore who "had lit up the Bulldogs earlier in the year" to get advice. Actually brought a tear of joy to my eye.
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