Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

mredskins · 04-30-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.

Plus the value of a good back up is immense! Instead of trying to shift thur other teams trash to find a quality back up why not draft someone you love and develop them.

Chico23231 · 04-30-2012, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.

For once you think the media and fans would be happy with a "plan b." The team has been so heavily criticized (myself included) on having to go into the draft having to find heavy impact players with every draft pick because they were so limited in the past. You clearly see with the Cousin, Keenan Robinson and Straight Outta Compton pick, these are plan B, talented reserves who provide a potential plan B down the line. Isnt it nice to have that luxury? Now we are building talented depth, people are gonna criticize? Anyone at ESPN and sports talk radio can go to hell if they are serious about a quarterback controversy comment.

Giantone · 04-30-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.

Wasn't Tom Brady what a 6 or 7th round pick and my point is you(teams in general) just don't know.

skinsfan69 · 04-30-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.

We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?

Mattyk · 04-30-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?

No, I don't think there's much of a possibility of Cousins outplaying RG3, since he's simply not going to see a ton of snaps. Plus it's likely that Grossman remains the #2 and Cousins is the #3.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-30-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Thank you NYC and Matty. This talk of Cousins' starting has got to stop. We drafted a clear starter and a backup - period.

The world is full of stupid people............................................ .................THE END

Mattyk · 04-30-2012, 09:53 AM

Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?

mredskins · 04-30-2012, 10:12 AM

My sincere apologies if this has been posted all ready but Gruden's camp on Cousins is pretty good probably better then RGIII's.

Gruden's QB Camp: Kirk Cousins (FULL)- HD - YouTube

mooby · 04-30-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?

QB CONTROVERSY! Will the Colts still start Luck after taking a qb with the last pick in the entire draft!? Stay tuned!

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-30-2012, 10:39 AM

the broncos took a QB in the 2nd. no ones talking controversy there. besides griffin, this was our best pick in the draft. some in the media will bash us now, but those same people will be praising our brilliance if/when griffin gets injured and we have a capable backup.

hooskins · 04-30-2012, 10:51 AM

It's really not that big of a deal, the more I think about it. We are desperate at the QB spot. We hopefully drafted our starting QB for the next decade and his backup/insurance policy/trade bait.

If RG3 can't handle a bit of competition, better to know that now than several years from now.

hooskins · 04-30-2012, 11:06 AM

They had Cousins on the Sports Junkies this morning. He sounds very mature and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I mean, if most boards have him as a 2nd-3rd rounder, you gotta get him.

Comes back to the balance of drafting need vs. rank.

Mattyk · 04-30-2012, 11:12 AM

It was definitely a BPA pick.

For the better part of 20 years we've had QB issues. If you can solve the starter and backup positions in one shot, why the heck not?

Paintrain · 04-30-2012, 11:13 AM

Look guys, this won't be a QB competition or controversy. There's no way on earth, heaven and hell that Cousins will be competing for the starting job or even enough meaningful snaps in practice that it will be a glimmer of a discussion. We drafted our starting QB for the next decade at #2 overall. We drafted his long term backup in the 4th round. It's that clear. Everything else is media pollution.

Best case-Cousins never sees the field and we have a long term backup in place.
Next best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in adequately and a trade market develops.
Mid best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in just well enough to cast his lot as a career backup and stays here long term.
Mid worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins isn't very good or is just good enough to spark a controversy.
Worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins sucks so we are back to square one.

3 out of those 5 scenarios leave us in a good position out of this draft strategy.

#56fanatic · 04-30-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

QB CONTROVERSY! Will the Colts still start Luck after taking a qb with the last pick in the entire draft!? Stay tuned!

I think that is a totally different situation. That 7th round QB may be lucky to make the team. Cousins was viewed by many as a potential starter in the NFL. For a team to draft two starting QB's, especially after giving up so much to get one of them, it is a bit of a head scratcher

04-30-2012, 09:53 AM	#112
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-30-2012, 10:12 AM	#113
mredskins Franchise Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,964	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 My sincere apologies if this has been posted all ready but Gruden's camp on Cousins is pretty good probably better then RGIII's. Gruden's QB Camp: Kirk Cousins (FULL)- HD - YouTube __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

04-30-2012, 10:39 AM	#115
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 the broncos took a QB in the 2nd. no ones talking controversy there. besides griffin, this was our best pick in the draft. some in the media will bash us now, but those same people will be praising our brilliance if/when griffin gets injured and we have a capable backup. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

04-30-2012, 10:51 AM	#116
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 It's really not that big of a deal, the more I think about it. We are desperate at the QB spot. We hopefully drafted our starting QB for the next decade and his backup/insurance policy/trade bait. If RG3 can't handle a bit of competition, better to know that now than several years from now. __________________ Vacancy

04-30-2012, 11:06 AM	#117
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 They had Cousins on the Sports Junkies this morning. He sounds very mature and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I mean, if most boards have him as a 2nd-3rd rounder, you gotta get him. Comes back to the balance of drafting need vs. rank. __________________ Vacancy

04-30-2012, 11:12 AM	#118
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 It was definitely a BPA pick. For the better part of 20 years we've had QB issues. If you can solve the starter and backup positions in one shot, why the heck not? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-30-2012, 11:13 AM	#119
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,529	Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7 Look guys, this won't be a QB competition or controversy. There's no way on earth, heaven and hell that Cousins will be competing for the starting job or even enough meaningful snaps in practice that it will be a glimmer of a discussion. We drafted our starting QB for the next decade at #2 overall. We drafted his long term backup in the 4th round. It's that clear. Everything else is media pollution. Best case-Cousins never sees the field and we have a long term backup in place. Next best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in adequately and a trade market develops. Mid best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in just well enough to cast his lot as a career backup and stays here long term. Mid worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins isn't very good or is just good enough to spark a controversy. Worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins sucks so we are back to square one. 3 out of those 5 scenarios leave us in a good position out of this draft strategy. __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

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