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Old 04-30-2012, 09:20 AM   #106
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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
For once you think the media and fans would be happy with a "plan b." The team has been so heavily criticized (myself included) on having to go into the draft having to find heavy impact players with every draft pick because they were so limited in the past. You clearly see with the Cousin, Keenan Robinson and Straight Outta Compton pick, these are plan B, talented reserves who provide a potential plan B down the line. Isnt it nice to have that luxury? Now we are building talented depth, people are gonna criticize? Anyone at ESPN and sports talk radio can go to hell if they are serious about a quarterback controversy comment.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:23 AM   #107
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
Wasn't Tom Brady what a 6 or 7th round pick and my point is you(teams in general) just don't know.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:33 AM   #108
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I don't see what the fuss is about really. Yeah I get the argument that a potential starter at other positions could have been taken with that pick. If that's your beef, ok.

But a 4th rounder is no real threat to a guy like RG3 who we just gave up a fortune to get.

I think their roles are pretty clear.
We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:36 AM   #109
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We see it all the time in the NFL where I guy that's drafted late ends up beating out a higher round pick. Let's not sit here and say that it can't happen. I hope it doesn't but it can happen.

So what if Cousins outplays RG3 in camp? Are you saying this isn't a possibility?
No, I don't think there's much of a possibility of Cousins outplaying RG3, since he's simply not going to see a ton of snaps. Plus it's likely that Grossman remains the #2 and Cousins is the #3.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:45 AM   #110
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Thank you NYC and Matty. This talk of Cousins' starting has got to stop. We drafted a clear starter and a backup - period.


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Old 04-30-2012, 09:53 AM   #111
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Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:12 AM   #112
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My sincere apologies if this has been posted all ready but Gruden's camp on Cousins is pretty good probably better then RGIII's.

Gruden's QB Camp: Kirk Cousins (FULL)- HD - YouTube
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:16 AM   #113
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Didn't the Colts take a QB in the 7th?
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #114
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the broncos took a QB in the 2nd. no ones talking controversy there. besides griffin, this was our best pick in the draft. some in the media will bash us now, but those same people will be praising our brilliance if/when griffin gets injured and we have a capable backup.
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

It's really not that big of a deal, the more I think about it. We are desperate at the QB spot. We hopefully drafted our starting QB for the next decade and his backup/insurance policy/trade bait.

If RG3 can't handle a bit of competition, better to know that now than several years from now.
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They had Cousins on the Sports Junkies this morning. He sounds very mature and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I mean, if most boards have him as a 2nd-3rd rounder, you gotta get him.

Comes back to the balance of drafting need vs. rank.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:12 AM   #117
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It was definitely a BPA pick.

For the better part of 20 years we've had QB issues. If you can solve the starter and backup positions in one shot, why the heck not?
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Look guys, this won't be a QB competition or controversy. There's no way on earth, heaven and hell that Cousins will be competing for the starting job or even enough meaningful snaps in practice that it will be a glimmer of a discussion. We drafted our starting QB for the next decade at #2 overall. We drafted his long term backup in the 4th round. It's that clear. Everything else is media pollution.

Best case-Cousins never sees the field and we have a long term backup in place.
Next best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in adequately and a trade market develops.
Mid best case-RGIII misses some time and Cousins fills in just well enough to cast his lot as a career backup and stays here long term.
Mid worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins isn't very good or is just good enough to spark a controversy.
Worst case-RGIII struggles with effectiveness or injury and Cousins sucks so we are back to square one.

3 out of those 5 scenarios leave us in a good position out of this draft strategy.
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QB CONTROVERSY! Will the Colts still start Luck after taking a qb with the last pick in the entire draft!? Stay tuned!
I think that is a totally different situation. That 7th round QB may be lucky to make the team. Cousins was viewed by many as a potential starter in the NFL. For a team to draft two starting QB's, especially after giving up so much to get one of them, it is a bit of a head scratcher
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Re: Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

It's like no one cares about Lotus and the fact that his favorite Redskin's career is just about over. Godspeed Jonathan Crompton...

Well you all know I've beating the "We need two young QBs" drum for a couple of years now. I wish we hadn't given up as much for RGIII, but we kind of had to.

And as much as people loathe Rex Grossman on the field, I wouldn't just dismiss what it means to have him on the roster. He's a veteran who knows this offense, is a great locker room guy, and best of all, has no qualms about working with young QBs who obviously (hopefully) will keep him on the bench. He'll be a good influence for both RGIII and Cousins.
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