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Draft wrap-up 2013

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View Poll Results: Your initial 2013 draft grade for the Skins:
A 24 18.18%
B 92 69.70%
C 15 11.36%
D 1 0.76%
F 0 0%
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:13 PM   #181
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So are most higher on Rambo than Thomas?
Not me, I think most just like his name or something. Thomas is overall a better player IMO. I think this time next though, we will all be saying how good amerson is
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:29 PM   #182
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Not me, I think most just like his name or something. Thomas is overall a better player IMO. I think this time next though, we will all be saying how good amerson is
I am saying that now.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:30 PM   #183
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What round Rambo was taken in is irrelevant. The kid can play. He has a nose for the ball and is an excellent deep centerfield FS ballhawk with great range. Rambo never fell in the draft for his play, he fell do character concerns. He's a better tackler than most give him credit for, he forces turnovers and he made an impact everygame when playing at UGA in the SEC. The game @ Florida Rambo missed just 1 tackle which was the Driskel 16 yard run. Otherwise He had a solid game.

What round you're drafted does not indicate playing time. The thing I like about Shanny is that he's for competition. No spot is secure. The best players play whether that's an undrafted FA or a 6th round pick. Bad NFL organizations have a systematic hierarchy that base starting and PT on what round a player's drafted or large their salary is.

I'm not a big fan of Phillip Thomas. He reminds me of a faster version of Chris Horton who's better in coverage. He's too inconsistent as a tackler. That said if Thomas can move to SS; I think that's where he's better suited to play.

Bottom line; it's ignorant to say and determine a player can't contribute because of where he was drafted or can't start because he's a rookie, Especially in April.
Good stuff here. I was thinking about how we get caught up with where a player is drafted. I don't know anything about college players, but from a birds' eye view given how many big-time schools/football programs there are it's pretty reasonable to expect the 150th overall player (for example) to have starter talent.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:42 PM   #184
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It seems that way and I don't get why. I am high on both of them and feel they both will start, but I like Thomas a bit better.
I like them both from what I've seen. Rambo is bigger and faster though, if it weren't for the off the field issues he's probably a 3rd rounder at worst.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:51 PM   #185
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I like them both from what I've seen. Rambo is bigger and faster though, if it weren't for the off the field issues he's probably a 3rd rounder at worst.
Yes, Rambo is faster. I thought they were the same size. I think Rambo ends up being the FS and Thomas ends up being the SS.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:54 PM   #186
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So are most higher on Rambo than Thomas?
Well, I am. Thomas just looks like a Chris Horton, where as Rambo looks like a potential Eric Weddle. A lot of the Redskin Insiders have been very high on Rambo and have been bashing Phillip Thomas. Phillip Thomas just looks stiff in coverage, whereas Rambo looks fluid. Rambo went against the best of the SEC and held up well. He missed 4 games earlier in the year due to a suspension for a failed drug test. Thomas went against the mountain west which doesn't have the NFL talent and all his picks came against bad teams, with QBs who forced the ball into double or triple coverage. He was an all american because of his 8 picks. The year before Rambo was an all american because he played a full season and also had 8 picks. The difference is that his 8 picks came against SEC competition, the best of the best. Look at what Phillip Thomas did when he played SMU, Oregon, and Boise St. and you see a guy who got picked on and lost in pass coverage. Rambo wasn't perfect if you see he had 2 jump balls snatched out of his hands against S. Carolina and Alabama, but those are much more coachable than being stiff in coverage, lost at times in coverage, and studder stepping when going to make a tackle.

Again though, the beauty of this draft is A) we got 2 safeties so hopefully one pans out (and hopefully we didn't just draft he devin thomas and malcolm kelly of safeties) B) we spent 4th and 6th round picks on these guys, so its not like we spent a high pick on them and can't cut them.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:55 PM   #187
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I like them both from what I've seen. Rambo is bigger and faster though, if it weren't for the off the field issues he's probably a 3rd rounder at worst.
In other words, you like Rambo a little better?
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In other words, you like Rambo a little better?
I'm really not sure yet. I'll wait to see them on the field. Sounds like Thomas might be more ready to play right off the bat. Rambo might have more upside in the long run.
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It's amazing to me that we are comparing Thomas to Chris Horton.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:26 PM   #190
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I'm really not sure yet. I'll wait to see them on the field. Sounds like Thomas might be more ready to play right off the bat. Rambo might have more upside in the long run.
I think that's about right as well.. Thomas may make more plays initially based on his instincts and awareness but as the league gets tape on him his weaknesses may be exposed. Rambo is more of a true rover FS and may ultimately settle in that role with Thomas playing more sub packages and SS. Either way, I think we improved the secondary on draft day.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:46 PM   #191
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Although I think Rambo is and will prove to be the better overall player; Thomas is a VERY good Blitzer and a pretty reliable tackler as an in the box S. If he's put at SS he'll be a decent starter. This Rambo/Thomas topic is good, but remember there both Redskins, and if they can help our secondary I'm all for it.
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It's amazing to me that we are comparing Thomas to Chris Horton.
Horton had heart he just wasn't talented enough, but that dude played hard
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After Rambo cuts the first guy in half with a machete, no receiver will come over the middle again.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:57 PM   #194
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As far as I'm concerned, we drafted three safeties. That's because I think Amerson's best position would be FS. Nevertheless, if Amerson can play CB we really win big by picking him.

I like all three of the DB's we picked. I admit that Phillip Thomas is my favorite. He is an exciting playmaker with outstanding ball skills and blitzing ability. Bacarri Rambo seems to have everything you would want in a FS. I'm very high on him, as well.

Like Mike Shanahan, I love having competition for jobs on the team. It prevents complacency. Players either compete hard for jobs or they eliminate themselves. As a bonus, the winners become better players because of the competition they faced.

I just like the idea that there will be plenty of competition for DB jobs this season. Put the players on the field, let them compete, and may the best men win.
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Amerson said the Skins have only talked to him about playing corner. We seem to have plenty of options already at safety.
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