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Draft wrap-up 2013

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View Poll Results: Your initial 2013 draft grade for the Skins:
A 24 18.18%
B 92 69.70%
C 15 11.36%
D 1 0.76%
F 0 0%
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:12 AM   #196
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C

Say it with me now:

"Not enough big bodies."

Football is a war of attrition that is won in the trenches.

We got no linemen on either side of the ball if we count Jenkins as an OLB.

In my book that's a 300 pound problem.
I get your point, but I think you got to think in context of how we have been building this team. Right Tackle is a concern and we need someone to step up there, but outside of that on both sides of the Line I feel rather confident with our bunch.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:29 AM   #197
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:55 AM   #198
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:21 PM   #199
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And Adrian Foster
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #200
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And Adrian Foster
Never heard of her.


Arian Foster?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #201
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Whos the Amish guy on the left?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:45 PM   #202
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Arian Foster?
Arian it is
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:41 AM   #203
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I fail to see how drafting a bunch of lineman would have helped us any this year. Outside of RT are there any other line positions up for grabs on either side of the ball??
Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:45 AM   #204
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Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.
The Giants have a good defensive line because they specifically spend first-round picks on the DL. We could not do that this year.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:47 AM   #205
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Do the Giants and Ravens have good defensive lines?

Yes.

But they draft the big boys every year.

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't have drafted any DB's, but for a draft that's deep along the defensive line we got none. Look at us last year. Front seven was supposed to be the strength of the team and then Orakpo and Carriker go down and it's middling. The defense played way over it's head during the win streak and everyone likes to focus on how bad our secondary was. But hey, we had the third most picks in the league and the 23rd most sacks. I'm a believer that you can do smoke and mirrors in the secondary but you can't fake winning at the point of attack.

Not having a first round pick or money to spend on FA's meant this team was going to have some holes no matter what. With Griffin in the fold the only thing I would have truly cared about shoring up was OL depth and the front seven. Secondary and skill players be damned I want a team that wins up front. Obviously, the ideal is to have both but we went all in on small players and I can't fall in love with the strategy.

Meanwhile you guys are all giving out B's and A's. In my mind there is no such thing as getting an A in the draft with no first round pick and ZERO offensive or defensive linemen. Period.
Good for the Ravens and Giants.

We obviously felt the secondary needed more help and considering how deep of a draft it was there this was the perfect year to stock up. This is also the first year that Shanahan hasn't taken an OL here. Our picks reflected our needs pretty well. I don't recall any draft gurus pointing out any glaring needs on the d-line and outside of right tackle none on the OL either.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:19 PM   #206
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The 2nd/3rd round Center the Cowboys picked with their first round pick.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:23 PM   #207
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You don't have to have glaring needs to add players to your football team. Look at Seattle signing Winfield, look at Denver adding Welker. I would not be surprised at all if the TE or one of the RB's we took turns into the best player for us from this draft. Just because we don't need big bodies right now doesn't mean we shouldn't draft them. On the contrary. We should draft them every year without fail.

The areas that I would have addressed this offseason were OL, DL, LB and DB. We got some DB's, lost Lorenzo Alexander and added one, yes that's one, linebacker in the draft. Pretty much every team in the league added players to their front sevens and offensive lines and we stood pat. In my eyes, that's a problem.

It's not what I would have done with limited resources. My plan would have been to focus on winning the trenches now that we have a QB. I would have been fine with it if we added more linebackers than we did. Any offseason that sees no depth or talent added to OL, DL and LB is a failure in my book. The draft contributed to that.

Yeah, we added some nice players too. And we needed those DB's badly.

So it's a C, not a D or an F.
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You don't have to have glaring needs to add players to your football team. Look at Seattle signing Winfield, look at Denver adding Welker. I would not be surprised at all if the TE or one of the RB's we took turns into the best player for us from this draft. Just because we don't need big bodies right now doesn't mean we shouldn't draft them. On the contrary. We should draft them every year without fail.

The areas that I would have addressed this offseason were OL, DL, LB and DB. We got some DB's, lost Lorenzo Alexander and added one, yes that's one, linebacker in the draft. Pretty much every team in the league added players to their front sevens and offensive lines and we stood pat. In my eyes, that's a problem.

It's not what I would have done with limited resources. My plan would have been to focus on winning the trenches now that we have a QB. I would have been fine with it if we added more linebackers than we did. Any offseason that sees no depth or talent added to OL, DL and LB is a failure in my book. The draft contributed to that.

Yeah, we added some nice players too. And we needed those DB's badly.

So it's a C, not a D or an F.
The draft isn't the only way to add talent.

We have signed lineman on both sides as well as linebackers. And we drafted a LB.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:31 PM   #209
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The 2nd/3rd round Center the Cowboys picked with their first round pick.

Ha...that's him? Good job, Jerry.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:36 PM   #210
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Unless the coaches know somebody is ready to step up, hope we address right tackle in free agency. Hopefully not an old or expensive guy ( fat chance right?).
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