Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room > NFL Draft Central


Mel's Latest Mock

NFL Draft Central


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2005, 02:40 AM   #1
Registered User
 
offiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ]
Age: 50
Posts: 3,097
Mel's Latest Mock

With just a few weeks remaining before the 2005 NFL draft there is plenty of shuffling happening on the draft board thanks to the results of the NFL combine and individual workouts.

Utah quarterback Alex Smith remains my choice as the No. 1 overall pick in my latest first-round projection, but Auburn running back Ronnie Brown has become the top overall prospect and moved into the No. 2 slot in the first round where he would be a great fit for the Miami Dolphins.

Overall, two quarterbacks and three running backs make up the top five in my latest mock draft, while offensive players occupy seven of the top 10 spots. There are 11 underclassmen (10 juniors and a third-year sophomore) among the 32 picks in this projection.

And keep an eye on the following players, who are on the fringe of the first round and could jump into the top 32 picks depending on workout results and shifting team needs: Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington; Justin Miller (jr.), CB, Clemson; Roscoe Parrish, WR, Miami; Matt Roth, DE, Iowa; Odell Thurman (jr.), LB, Georgia.


1. San Francisco 49ers: Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah
A smart player who will pick up an NFL system quickly, Smith has good size, is mobile enough to hurt teams with his running ability and is also an efficient passer who can make all the necessary throws. The Niners likely won't get a good enough deal to move down because there is not a particular player creating a buzz as the surefire No. 1 prospect, but getting Smith would be a good start toward revamping a struggling offense.


2. Miami Dolphins: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
Brown is the top running back available after his outstanding combine workout. He showed impressive speed for a 230-pounder, he can catch the ball out of the backfield and also has excellent instincts and quickness, something new Dolphins coach Nick Saban knows all about having coached against Brown in the SEC while at LSU.


3. Cleveland Browns: Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California
Rodgers is a smart, accurate passer with a quick release. His arm strength is adequate and he put height questions to rest at the combine. Rodgers is a better prospect at this point in his career than former Cal QB Kyle Boller, now the starter for the Baltimore Ravens.




It takes more than one arm tackle to bring down Cedric Benson.4. Chicago Bears: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
The Bears addressed their need for a big-time wideout with the free agent signing of Muhsin Muhammad and Benson would give quarterback Rex Grossman two topflight weapons to help out on offense. Benson is a tough, productive runner who can go the distance and always showed up in his team's biggest games.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carnell Williams, RB, Auburn
A creative, deceptive runner with tremendous natural skills. Williams can get tough yards inside despite lacking ideal size, a point illustrated by his 29 rushing TDs over the last two years, and Tampa coach Jon Gruden is very familiar with him after coaching Williams in the Senior Bowl.


6. Tennessee Titans: Adam Jones (jr.), CB, West Virginia
A good cover man who will also contribute as a kick returner, Jones has very good closing speed and is a willing tackler in run support. That may be his most important quality with the NFL hurting pass defenses by focusing on downfield infractions by defensive backs. Jones also fills a major need after hits in free agency.


7. Minnesota Vikings (from OAK): Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
Edwards' size, strength, speed and overall athleticism would go a long way toward filling the void left by the trade of Randy Moss, which is how the Vikings acquired the selection in the first place. Minnesota also has needs on defense but can address them later in the first round.


8. Arizona Cardinals: Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
The best pure linebacker in the draft, Johnson has sideline-to-sideline speed and is always around the ball. His consistency would be welcome on a defense looking for playmakers.


9. Washington Redskins: Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC
Williams has the size and strength to dominate corners with his 6-foot-5, 230-pound frame. He must answer questions about his speed, but beyond that his hands, body control and natural receiving skills make him a very attractive package for a team that needs to help quarterback Patrick Ramsey.


10. Detroit Lions: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
The Lions need their front seven to get more pressure on the quarterback and Cody would help with his fiery attitude and relentless motor. He stepped up in big games and was one of the most consistent performers on a defense full of stars.




This mock IMO is probably the most realistic mock I have seen, Although I think Benson will be better than Brown, I don't feel you can go wrong with either one, I also think Edward's may slip past the Vik's as they go for defense, without any unforseen trades I say we have a good shot at either Edward's or William's, preferably William's.
offiss is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 03-16-2005, 02:46 AM   #2
Mr. Brightside
 
Big C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fairfax, Virginia
Age: 28
Posts: 4,442
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

i dont see the bears goin RB since thomas jones was pretty solid for them last year, they might grab a WR, maybe edwards, cuz muhammad is not a long-term solution, but i supposed anythings possible
__________________
"I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs
Big C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 04:00 AM   #3
Impact Rookie
 
ST21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 519
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Edwards by most scouts......is a bigger playmaker....I'll ask coach gibbs......
ST21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 05:34 AM   #4
Special Teams
 
aehs77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: silver spring
Age: 29
Posts: 486
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

I just cant see us going after a reciever.
aehs77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 08:40 AM   #5
The Starter
 
PSUSkinsFan21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Age: 38
Posts: 1,340
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

From reading most of the posts on this site, it seems like almost everyone here wants Mike Williams (that is, if Braylon is gone). What does anyone think about Troy Williamson out of South Carolina? Before the trade for Moss, I really wanted Williamson over Williams. I just have a hard time getting excited about a WR with 4.6 speed in the NFL who hasn't played a snap in over a year (no matter how big he is). Now that we have Moss, I suppose we already have the speedy WR to stretch the field, so I'm warming up to Williams. Overall though, a 6'1"+, 200+ lbs, WR with sub-4.4 speed (Williamson) sounds like an ideal WR in the NFL to me. Williams, on the other hand, will have to out-jump CBs in the NFL because he won't be able to outrun them.
__________________
"Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"
PSUSkinsFan21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 08:43 AM   #6
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,962
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Just a little "Did You Know" for you guys-if Utah's Alex Smith is indeed the first pick and if, as expected, Utah C Andrew Bogut is the first pick in the NBA draft it would mark the first time ever that two players from the same school were selected number one in two different drafts
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 09:30 AM   #7
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 36
Posts: 9,984
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

I can't disagree more with anybody who thinks that Williamson is on the same level as Williams and Edwards. There's a reason guys like Edwards and Williams dominate in college and guys like Williamson don't. Williamson was a very good WR in college but he wasn't quite at the game changing level. He may end up being good in the NFL but Edwrads and Williams have the best chance of being difference makers. Speed is overrated. If you have size, strength, good route running, good hands, great body control and positioning and a mature attitude then you are far better off than being just a speedster. Ask TO. He may be a punk to some but when it comes to football he has only slightly above average speed. He does run great routes and have great hands. He is the absolute best at getting open in the league and he uses his body adn strength to do it. He is a team leader and works as hard as anybody. His speed offers him little but his size and receiving skills make him a play maker. Williams looks a lot like TO. Edwards looks more like Rice or Fitzgerald. Good at everything.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 09:32 AM   #8
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 33
Posts: 17,631
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Not only that, how often do you REALLY see WRs getting called for interference? If you're big you can push people around and get separation.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 10:22 AM   #9
The Starter
 
PSUSkinsFan21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Age: 38
Posts: 1,340
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Ok, you guys have just about convinced me on Williams over Williamson, and I agree with just about everything you've said, but just a few points:
1. I'm not so sure I'd be willing to conceed that Williams has a "mature attitude" yet. I wonder about anyone who wants to leave college after just two years. No doubt he's handled himself much better than Clarrett, but maturity isn't something I would assume about Williams yet.
2. I don't think speed is overrated, and I don't think it's underrated, but I do think it's a consideration for any WR in the NFL. I'd actually be curious to see what kind of 40 T.O. could run.
3. I have to attribute some of Williamson's so-so numbers to the team he was on. Let's face it, South Carolina is not the team or the offense that Michigan or USC are (my apologies to any Gamecocks out there).
4. Scouts Inc. actually rates Williamson higher than Williams (for whatever that's worth), so I don't think I'm too far off base here.

Overall though, I think I'm leaning back towards Williams because you've made some really good points. And let's not forget, we already know he'd look good in a Skins uniform (maroon and yellow aren't that far off).
__________________
"Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"
PSUSkinsFan21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 10:24 AM   #10
Puppy Kicker
 
Daseal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 31
Posts: 8,236
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

PSUSkinsFan21 - Gamecocks will be title contending next year! Viva Spurrier!

Williamson will be a great player, but I think our team can use a big receiver like Williams more than a small guy. We have four of those!
Daseal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 10:53 AM   #11
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 83,386
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

I heard Spurrier is cracking down at SC and has suspended some players. Too bad he didn't take the same approach here.

He thought the NFL was full of men who could take care of themselves, truth is the NFL is full of the same boys from college expect now they have huge bank accounts.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 11:03 AM   #12
Puppy Kicker
 
Daseal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 31
Posts: 8,236
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Exactly matty. He treated them like professionals - whoops!
Daseal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 11:41 AM   #13
Karma Chameleon
 
jdlea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Annapolis, MD
Age: 30
Posts: 3,101
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

If Mike Williams is there I don't mind the pick. However, I really think the Skins should think defense in the draft. They need people to replace Smoot and Pierce. I think they have adequately replaced Coles and Gardner already and if they haven't, they can pursue wide outs in the later rounds.
jdlea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 12:00 PM   #14
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,962
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daseal
Exactly matty. He treated them like professionals - whoops!
That's fine if he treated them like professionals but when a problem develops-player talking on the cell phone during a meeting-as head coach of the team you have to step up and take control of the team

but regardless, when can we finally put this Spurrier era behind us?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 12:04 PM   #15
Playmaker
 
skinsfanthru&thru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 34
Posts: 3,743
Re: Mel's Latest Mock

peirce and smoot can be replaced by picks after the first round because afterall Smoot was a 2nd round choice and Peirce was undrafted so it's not like we can't find guys to replace them after the first round.
I've been a big fan of drafting Williams if available, but after reading some posts about the depth of our wrs, I'm kinda on the fence now and especially with the contract rumors about Moss. Because from day one I would think Williams would be the #1 or atleast #2 option and thus the depth chart would be Williams/Moss #1, Williams/Moss #2, Givens #3, Jacobs#4, and Thrash/Mccants#5. That's pretty deep considering some posters, including myself, think Jacobs has the ability in him to become a starting quality wr.
But on the flip side, the argument for a big playmaker @the WR position holds some weight in that, while Mccants has shown he can be a solid red zone contributor, he doesn't provide that much of a pop between the 20s. I believe Williams would be the perfect compliment to the flashy speed of our other wrs like we had hoped Gardner would be, but of course Gardner's never come close to having the same type of hands as Williams.

If we draft Williams, I'm cool with that. If we trade down to pick up more picks and add depth and actually scout talent well like they did last year, I'm cool with that as well. If it were me in charge, after watching how stagnant the offense was last year, I know I couldn't pass up on adding a playmaker to my offense.
skinsfanthru&thru is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.32963 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25