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Old 03-24-2005, 10:23 AM   #31
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Re: Gibbs Hints 'Skins Will Draft A Defensive Player with the 9th Pick

Coach may be thinking of teams below him that want to trade up for defense to make them think they need to deal with us.

It's way too early to put stock into anything said by the team about the draft.
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Old 03-24-2005, 10:45 AM   #32
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Re: Gibbs Hints 'Skins Will Draft A Defensive Player with the 9th Pick

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Let's not forget guys this is the time for smoke screens. I wouldn't be suprised to see us go WR or CB, but he could just be blowing smoke. I still think they're undecided.
Exactly my thoughts. I think that we could very well be playing our card to the best of our ability. All we have to do is sell the fact we dont want a WR at nine and if one falls there teams will start calling. Or by saying we want a CB teams the hope to see a guy slide down to them will get nervous.

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Old 03-24-2005, 10:49 AM   #33
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It's way too early to put stock into anything said by the team about the draft.
exactly...

Gibbs is the type of guy who will take the best available at that 9 slot. whether it's a cover CB (which is almost non-existant now with the 5 yard bump rule), a ball hawking WR, or a pass rushing DE, he is prepared to take the best player available in order to fill one of his needs.

If Brown chooses the Skins over his other suitors, it narrows it down. Since Gardner will not commit beyond this season, he will most likely stay a Redskin (unless we package him and our 9 for one of the top 5 picks), and will not need another WR. Rolle and Jones are both talented, but both crap shoots at best. Everyone talks about Heath Miller, but he's not a top 10 pick...he's a mid to late 1st round pick at best (no matter what Kiper or the mocks say).

we'll all be on the edge of our seats come draft day to see what Gibbs and the braintrust does.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:31 AM   #34
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If he is still on the board... do not be shocked if we go with Derrick Johnson at #9. I know the coaching staff loves Lamar Marchall, but he has NEVER played middle LB before... Derrick Johnson is the best LB prospect to come out in years, he is VERY strong and the FASTEST LB coming out (can run down ball carriers sideline to sideline) and if anyone can get the most out of him changing over to MLB, Gregg Williams is that man.

There will always be a Justin Miller, Corey Webster or Fabian Wahington (4.25 40-time) in the second round at CB.... we need a middle linebacker and I'm SURE Williams knows that!!
Johnson is definitely the prototype OLB...a fast pass rush guy, who is relatively small (6-2 230). Definitely a NOT a run stuffer. Plus I hate what Im hearing about him running around blocks and not taking the most direct route to the play. Thats definitely not the trait I want in my MLB!
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:33 AM   #35
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lets hope and pray that the Titans dont pick rolle and that he is available when we pick. Rolle should be a game one starter and an impact player. Him and Springs would be perfect together. Harris is an amazing nickel corner, but not an elite starting corner, plus he is old. Nickel is a perfect spot for him, after his knee injuries this lets him maximize his playing time without over doing it.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:54 AM   #36
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Problem with Rolle is who do we put on the burning WRs. Springs and Rolle both are big physical guys without the speed to cover the guys who run in the low 4.4 range.
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What was Rolles 40 time?
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:32 PM   #38
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Problem with Rolle is who do we put on the burning WRs. Springs and Rolle both are big physical guys without the speed to cover the guys who run in the low 4.4 range.
Essentially, I agree w/ you Daseal. My own thought is that w/ today's game and the rules emphasis, you go back to the old adage - you can't teach speed.

I am not sure, however, that speed is a big concern to Williams - One of the things I remember Smoot saying after a bad PI call in one of the Philly games was something along the lines of "sure, Pinkston or TO might outrun me - but Mitchell?" Basically admitting that certain receivers were gonna get past him.
Plus, with Taylor and his freaky speed backing them up, I am not sure pure speed is what Williams is looking at.

Also, given what Williams asks his corners what to do and how he schemes, he may prefer two CB's w/ good speed and some size as opposed to one CB w/ great speed but lesser size. Maybe this is why GW didn't seem as high on Smoot as some of us. Maybe it's why he is comfortable with W. Harris.

Since I am not a mind reader, I am just guessing as to Williams take on it but my guess is that he would prefer Rolle to Jones.

One last thought, in our division, are the teams No. 1 WR's really burners? TO, Keyshawn, Plax. No - they are big guys with average (Keyshawn) or good speed (TO and, I think, Plax).
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:42 PM   #39
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Pac Man, Lets Not Forget Our Own Darrell Green The Heart Is Something
You Can't Check Til Game Day.pl Us As Another Guy Said Speed Can't Be Taught. But I Tell You What Mr Brown Out Of Auburn Sure Would Be Sweet Running Out Of Our Back Field, Sorry Guys Just Dreaming But 4.4 Speed And
230 Pounds Of Ouch Sooooo Shhweet. Oh Well We've Got The Mighty Might.
But It Would Be Nice. Thanks For Letting Me Ramble
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Re: Gibbs Hints 'Skins Will Draft A Defensive Player with the 9th Pick

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Pac Man, Lets Not Forget Our Own Darrell Green The Heart Is Something
You Can't Check Til Game Day.plus As Another Guy Said Speed Can't Be Taught. But I Tell You What Mr Brown Out Of Auburn Sure Would Be Sweet Running Out Of Our Back Field, Sorry Guys Just Dreaming But 4.4 Speed And
230 Pounds Of Ouch Sooooo Shhweet. Oh Well We've Got The Mighty Might.
But It Would Be Nice. Thanks For Letting Me Ramble
I dont like to complain, but i couldnt read your post because you cap'd every word. That makes it terribly difficult to read.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:58 PM   #41
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sorry bout that trying to remember, i check in through the day and sometimes i forget to turn it down,
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Old 03-24-2005, 09:45 PM   #42
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Johnson is definitely the prototype OLB...a fast pass rush guy, who is relatively small (6-2 230). Definitely a NOT a run stuffer. Plus I hate what Im hearing about him running around blocks and not taking the most direct route to the play. Thats definitely not the trait I want in my MLB!

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Are you talking about the right Derek Johnson?
First off your numbers are all wrong, at yesterdays (3/23/2005) U. of Texas pro day, Derek Johnson was measured and weighed by the NFL and he came in at 6-3¼ and 243 pounds. He lifted (bench press) the 225-pound strength bar 21 times and ran the 40-yard dash in 4.52 seconds.
Also check out his highlight video of last year, first link on the left under his picture:
http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/a...0_johnson.html

On this highlight reel you will notice he was playing MLB on some of the biggest hits. About 1/4 of the way through (the 6th and 7th play on the reel) he was at MLB and making big hits.
Living here in Texas I saw many of his games and nobody around here is saying he ran around blocks. He is very physical player.
Maybe you are refering to another Derek Johnson?
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Old 03-24-2005, 09:51 PM   #43
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If Derek Johnson is gone, we should look to trade down a few spots and draft Auburn CB Carlos Rogers. This guy is a great/ physical CB. He is getting stronger and bigger, he recently (a few days ago) was measured at 6' 1" and 200 pounds and ran the 40 in 4.31 seconds. That is awesome. Plus he had a strong career at Auburn (SEC).
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:45 PM   #44
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I like Rogers a lot. Great tradedown guy!
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:12 AM   #45
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Derrick Johnson would be fine by me or Carlos Rogers
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