Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room > NFL Draft Central


34th Overall Pick

NFL Draft Central


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-26-2014, 04:48 PM   #331
Pro Bowl
 
punch it in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: toms river, nj
Age: 43
Posts: 5,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap View Post
Great drink but if your friend calls all the local grocery stores for mint, buys the entire stock of the one that has the most, and sticks it all in a handle of Makers Mark DON'T DRINK IT.

Ill try and remember that!
__________________
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi
punch it in is online now   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 04-28-2014, 08:40 PM   #332
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,669
Re: 34th Overall Pick

I think if the Redskins came away with Moses [OT UVA] in the second round and David Yankey [OG Stanford] in the third round my Hypothalamus would go into overdrive resulting in a most fatal and acute influx of Dopamine.
Quote:
In the simplest of terms, dopamine is a neurotransmitter in the brain that when released, makes you feel good. Eating triggers the release of dopamine, as does sexual activity and many other natural and rewarding activities, such as being in a loving relationship. However many habits and addictions that are not so healthy, also trigger the release of dopamine. Nicotine, cocaine and caffeine all influence dopamine levels and consequently have an impact on our mood.
I do ask that if this scenario should come to pass that the forum uses this as the David Yankey theme song.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 01:42 AM   #333
The Starter
 
warriorzpath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,659
Re: 34th Overall Pick

1st choice at #34- Jason Verrett. Too skillful. Shutdown potential. Should start early to mid-season.

2nd choice at #34- Safety Deone Bucannon. Active and always around the ball. Very instinctive in coverage and against the run. Strong tackler. Everything you want in a safety and everything the Redskins were missing last year. Would be a perfect fit that would turn a weakness into a strength.

I will be pissed if the Redskins pass on these players for a guy with just size, speed, and/or potential. We have enough Amersons, Leribuses, Phillip Thomases, and Rambos. F*ck potential, Verrett and Bucannon can play now.
warriorzpath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 08:32 AM   #334
The Starter
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: MD Eastern Shore
Posts: 2,265
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorzpath View Post
1st choice at #34- Jason Verrett. Too skillful. Shutdown potential. Should start early to mid-season.

2nd choice at #34- Safety Deone Bucannon. Active and always around the ball. Very instinctive in coverage and against the run. Strong tackler. Everything you want in a safety and everything the Redskins were missing last year. Would be a perfect fit that would turn a weakness into a strength.

I will be pissed if the Redskins pass on these players for a guy with just size, speed, and/or potential. We have enough Amersons, Leribuses, Phillip Thomases, and Rambos. F*ck potential, Verrett and Bucannon can play now.
I think you are underestimating some of these current players.

I felt that Amerson had a decent rookie season. He should make big strides in his second year.

Phillip Thomas was pencilled in as a starter at safety until he was injured last preseason. I'm still high on him and I think he'll deliver on his promise this season.

I've criticized Leribeus as much as anyone about his lack of conditioning which seems to be due to a lack of motivation. Nevertheless, in the small sample of playing time he's had, LeRibeus looks to me to be a talented player. Apparently, he is in better shape this year, so I think he has a chance to be a good player.

Rambo has a long way to go to be an NFL safety. We'll see what happens.

Verrett and Buchanan may be better players than the current players you mentioned but we don't know that yet. There are no sure things in NFL drafting, so they are both only prospects with potential, as well.

Personally, I would much rather see the Skins pick an OT in the second round than a DB. I think that protecting RGIII better should be the top priority.
__________________
Hope Springs Eternal
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 08:56 AM   #335
MVP
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 37
Posts: 11,750
Re: 34th Overall Pick

2 things that would make me extremely happy in regards to the draft, we are able to trade down a couple spots and get some extra picks and move Cousins for a 3rd round pick.
__________________
Ditka for President
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 09:14 AM   #336
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,733
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan View Post
I think you are underestimating some of these current players.

I felt that Amerson had a decent rookie season. He should make big strides in his second year.

Phillip Thomas was pencilled in as a starter at safety until he was injured last preseason. I'm still high on him and I think he'll deliver on his promise this season.

I've criticized Leribeus as much as anyone about his lack of conditioning which seems to be due to a lack of motivation. Nevertheless, in the small sample of playing time he's had, LeRibeus looks to me to be a talented player. Apparently, he is in better shape this year, so I think he has a chance to be a good player.

Rambo has a long way to go to be an NFL safety. We'll see what happens.

Verrett and Buchanan may be better players than the current players you mentioned but we don't know that yet. There are no sure things in NFL drafting, so they are both only prospects with potential, as well.

Personally, I would much rather see the Skins pick an OT in the second round than a DB. I think that protecting RGIII better should be the top priority.
Amerson has the potential to be our best player on defense in a couple of years

I like Thomas quite a bit, but he's coming off a very serious injury

Fingers crossed on LeRibeus

Rambo may simply be destined to be a backup, and if that's the case then he has to learn to play special teams. Because backup defensive backs who don't play special teams hardly exist
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 09:29 AM   #337
Pro Bowl
 
punch it in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: toms river, nj
Age: 43
Posts: 5,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan View Post
I think you are underestimating some of these current players.



I felt that Amerson had a decent rookie season. He should make big strides in his second year.



Phillip Thomas was pencilled in as a starter at safety until he was injured last preseason. I'm still high on him and I think he'll deliver on his promise this season.



I've criticized Leribeus as much as anyone about his lack of conditioning which seems to be due to a lack of motivation. Nevertheless, in the small sample of playing time he's had, LeRibeus looks to me to be a talented player. Apparently, he is in better shape this year, so I think he has a chance to be a good player.



Rambo has a long way to go to be an NFL safety. We'll see what happens.



Verrett and Buchanan may be better players than the current players you mentioned but we don't know that yet. There are no sure things in NFL drafting, so they are both only prospects with potential, as well.



Personally, I would much rather see the Skins pick an OT in the second round than a DB. I think that protecting RGIII better should be the top priority.

This. Lets protect our third year qb before we start replacing our second year db's. Please.
__________________
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi
punch it in is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 12:02 PM   #338
The Starter
 
SirLK26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,372
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by punch it in View Post
This. Lets protect our third year qb before we start replacing our second year db's. Please.
What if Verrett or Bucannon is available at #34, while the best OT, OG, and C available are Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, and Marcus Martin? Are you really going to pass up one of those two elite prospects for an O-lineman who is a possible upgrade, but a lesser talent? Even if Moses or Bitonio are available, neither are a talent of Bucannon or especially Verrett's caliber. Now, if Su'a-Filo falls, the scenario gets tougher...

Hoping for a run of QBs in the 1st so we can even choose from prospects like Verrett. If Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Carr, and hopefully another QB go in the 1st or very early second(like #34), we'll have some great players available to choose from. Perhaps if Carr or some QB Cleveland likes is available at #34, we can trade down 1 spot and get another pick.
__________________
"[Trent Murphy] is not going to stand there and be your b****. Be a gentleman, open doors for women, but when s*** hits the fan, he wants to whip you." - Jerry Murphy

Keep the name.
SirLK26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 12:17 PM   #339
Pro Bowl
 
punch it in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: toms river, nj
Age: 43
Posts: 5,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirLK26 View Post
What if Verrett or Bucannon is available at #34, while the best OT, OG, and C available are Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, and Marcus Martin? Are you really going to pass up one of those two elite prospects for an O-lineman who is a possible upgrade, but a lesser talent? Even if Moses or Bitonio are available, neither are a talent of Bucannon or especially Verrett's caliber. Now, if Su'a-Filo falls, the scenario gets tougher...



Hoping for a run of QBs in the 1st so we can even choose from prospects like Verrett. If Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Carr, and hopefully another QB go in the 1st or very early second(like #34), we'll have some great players available to choose from. Perhaps if Carr or some QB Cleveland likes is available at #34, we can trade down 1 spot and get another pick.

Well you are still going on the premise that Amerson and Thomas are busts of some sort. Also how many "elite prospects" have we seen have their most elite moments before they ever put on an nfl uniform? Look I am not doubting that their might be a better prospect available in the 2nd or 3rd round than one of the tackles or gaurds available. I do know that I cannot sit back and watch Tyler Polumbus let RG3 get killed for another year.
__________________
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi
punch it in is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 12:46 PM   #340
The Starter
 
SirLK26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,372
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by punch it in View Post
Well you are still going on the premise that Amerson and Thomas are busts of some sort. Also how many "elite prospects" have we seen have their most elite moments before they ever put on an nfl uniform? Look I am not doubting that their might be a better prospect available in the 2nd or 3rd round than one of the tackles or gaurds available. I do know that I cannot sit back and watch Tyler Polumbus let RG3 get killed for another year.
Actually, I think Amerson's a stud in the making. Based on last year, I think he could easily be a top 10 corner in the league. And I loved him coming out as well; in January of 2013, my first month on this site, there was a thread about trading for Revis to which I replied something to the tune of, "Revis would be nice, but he isn't really a viable option. How about drafting David Amerson from NC State?" But that doesn't mean I don't want Verrett as well; he's an ideal fit for a slot corner in the NFL. And good corners are like good pass-rushers; you can't have too many.

On Thomas, I loved him coming out as well. I made a pre-draft post about him too, something like, "Whoever gets Phillip Thomas is one lucky team." And with Bruce Allen saying that they expected Thomas to be a starter last year before he got hurt, I still have hopes for him. But Bucannon's a superior talent and doesn't have the injury issues.

BTW, it's safe to say that after last year's draft, I was ecstatic. Like a kid who had Christmas come early.
__________________
"[Trent Murphy] is not going to stand there and be your b****. Be a gentleman, open doors for women, but when s*** hits the fan, he wants to whip you." - Jerry Murphy

Keep the name.
SirLK26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 12:51 PM   #341
The Starter
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: MD Eastern Shore
Posts: 2,265
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirLK26 View Post
What if Verrett or Bucannon is available at #34, while the best OT, OG, and C available are Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, and Marcus Martin? Are you really going to pass up one of those two elite prospects for an O-lineman who is a possible upgrade, but a lesser talent? Even if Moses or Bitonio are available, neither are a talent of Bucannon or especially Verrett's caliber. Now, if Su'a-Filo falls, the scenario gets tougher...

Hoping for a run of QBs in the 1st so we can even choose from prospects like Verrett. If Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Carr, and hopefully another QB go in the 1st or very early second(like #34), we'll have some great players available to choose from. Perhaps if Carr or some QB Cleveland likes is available at #34, we can trade down 1 spot and get another pick.
The team's draft board will certainly be a factor; however, we all know that teams rank players differently for a number of reasons. Actually, everybody does.

For example, here's where CBS Sports rates some of the players you mentioned:

Verrett 26
Sua-Filo 30
Moses 37
Bitonio 41
Bucannon 65

If the Redskins' rankings were the the same as the CBS Sports rankings, then the Skins might be inclined to take either Moses or Bitonio at #34 with the idea that Bucannon might be available to them in the third round.
__________________
Hope Springs Eternal
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 12:58 PM   #342
The Starter
 
SirLK26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,372
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan View Post
The team's draft board will certainly be a factor; however; we all know that team rate players differently for a number of reasons. Actually, everybody does.

For example, here's where CBS Sports rates some of the players you mentioned:

Verrett 26
Sua-Filo 30
Moses 37
Bitonio 41
Bucannon 65

If the Redskins' rankings were the the same as the CBS Sports rankings, then the Skins might be inclined to take either Moses or Bitonio at #34 with the idea that Bucannon might be available to them in the third round.
True. Last year, I thought both Amerson and Thomas were 2nd rounders. And then we ended up getting Amerson in the 2nd and Thomas in the 4th.

But if the Redskins board looks like CBS Sports', I might give up football. Bucannon is a borderline 1st round selection; absolutely no way he's available in the 3rd. I personally think he's better than Pryor and Clinton-Dix; the best safety available, in fact. But that's not the point of your post. I agree with you.
__________________
"[Trent Murphy] is not going to stand there and be your b****. Be a gentleman, open doors for women, but when s*** hits the fan, he wants to whip you." - Jerry Murphy

Keep the name.
SirLK26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2014, 01:48 PM   #343
Special Teams
 
sevier2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 120
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Amerson has the potential to be our best player on defense in a couple of years

I like Thomas quite a bit, but he's coming off a very serious injury

Fingers crossed on LeRibeus

Rambo may simply be destined to be a backup, and if that's the case then he has to learn to play special teams. Because backup defensive backs who don't play special teams hardly exist
I agree people somehow forget most top players in the league didn't come in and dominate year one. Amerson has that potential and showed a lot of promise his first year.

As for Rambo, didn't look to good out there. However, if he can develop and play special teams like you said I have no problem with him as a backup. Year 1 was way too much for him but we'll see how he adjusts.
__________________
This is an environment of welcoming and you should just get the hell out of here.
sevier2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 12:17 PM   #344
MVP
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 37
Posts: 11,750
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Does anybody like Dee Ford out of Auburn as a 3-4 OLB pass rusher? I might if he falls to us.

Right now my preferences for our first pick:

1. Jimmie Ward
2. Dee Ford
3. Morgan Moses
__________________
Ditka for President
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 01:18 PM   #345
The Starter
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: MD Eastern Shore
Posts: 2,265
Re: 34th Overall Pick

Yet another great article by Rich Tandler from yesterday:

"The Redskins could use an infusion of young talent from next monthís NFL draft. The problem is that that have only six picks and they are missing a first rounder. They could improve their chances of landing good contributors and perhaps even a star player or two by acquiring more draft picks.

One way is to trade away players on the roster but the Redskins are not an exceptionally deep team (thatís why they need help from the draft) and the chances of anyone coming up with an offer for any player besides Kirk Cousins are slim. And the backup QB might not be going anywhere.

The other option is to trade down. Letís take a look at what the Redskins might be able to get in a swap down from their initial spot, No. 34 overall, by using the draft value trade chart. The chart is just a guide but it gives us a ballpark idea of what the picks are worth.

Right now, the only team with an extra second-round pick is the 49ers, who hold overall picks 56 and 61. The could package those picks to move up to No. 34 and they might ask for the Redskinsí fifth-round pick to even things out. The issue here is that the Redskins would not be adding to their quantity of picks but the quality would improve.

The Redskins could pick up an additional pick around the middle of the third round by moving back to the latter stages of the second round. A move back of about 20 spots to 53rd overall is worth a mid-third-round pick.

To pick up a fourth they would need to move back about 10 spots, moving back five or six spots is worth a fifth.

Trading down in the third or fourth is a possibility but the trade value chart tells you that those moves yield only late-round picks. Still, the more picks you have the better chance there is of finding an Alfred Morris sometime on Saturday.

Moving up (My note: I think he meant to write "down" here) is not as simple as many fans may make it out to be. The Redskins would have to be on the clock with multiple options as to two to select. A team behind them would want to have a particular player who is on the board badly enough to give up picks in what has been called the deepest draft in years."
__________________
Hope Springs Eternal
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.34307 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25