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Old 05-09-2014, 10:21 AM   #526
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I keep reading analysts talking about whether prospects would fit in the redskins zone blocking scheme. Is that part of Gruden's scheme? Have they said for sure that zone blocking will continue to be part of our offensive scheme?
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:31 AM   #527
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yeah gruden said they'd be keeping it, and they kept the OL coach too.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:33 AM   #528
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My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.
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My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.
Move down twice?! Are you trying to give me a heart attack? I'll be watching, you know. I'm pretty sure I can't stand to wtach the Skins move down twice. If they do, I'm afraid I'll be a victim of draft stress before the Skins pick.

If they move down from #34, maybe I'll just watch the NBA playoffs and then check back on the draft late in the evening. It's a matter of survival, man.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:49 AM   #530
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Louis Nix, Timmy Jernigan, or Cyrus Kouandjio. Oh my, I just pitched a tent!
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:59 AM   #531
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Louis Nix looks like a clone of Vince Wilfork. At least in the face.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:10 AM   #532
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If Houston takes Su'a-Filo, we need to trade back several spots, likely with a team who wants a QB. We could trade back, get another pick in the 3rd(laugh at me if that's outrageous; what do you think we could get for a trade back?), and still have one of those top rated players available.

Su'a-Filo is an excellent OG, and he's got a nasty streak on the field. He would likely be our best interior lineman by the end of the year.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:12 AM   #533
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My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.
I like the trade down, even trade down twice, idea.

Although, as KI Skins Fan has said, it will be frustrating to watch.
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i definitely would be ok with one trade down, maybe with Tampa Bay. I wouldn't want to go much further down.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:39 AM   #535
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I like the trade down, even trade down twice, idea.

Although, as KI Skins Fan has said, it will be frustrating to watch.
im not a big fan of moving down too much or just moving down to move down.

id personally rather have a 2nd rounder vs 2 4th rounders.

i dont mind moving down a few spots but i want to walk away from the draft with at least one penciled-in starter vs a handful of potential contributors.

go get talent.

talent wins.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:51 AM   #536
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im not a big fan of moving down too much or just moving down to move down.

id personally rather have a 2nd rounder vs 2 4th rounders.

i dont mind moving down a few spots but i want to walk away from the draft with at least one penciled-in starter vs a handful of potential contributors.

go get talent.

talent wins.
the Redskins have plenty of needs, and there is plenty of depth in this draft. It is erroneous to assume pick #40 is automatically worse than #34.

A trade down from #34 will get much more than 2 4th rounders. It could add a late 2nd and a 3rd.
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Draft value chart for those interested in moving down.

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:08 PM   #538
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Moses and the rest is gravy.
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Or move up a few spots from early 3rd round to late second?
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the Redskins have plenty of needs, and there is plenty of depth in this draft. It is erroneous to assume pick #40 is automatically worse than #34.

A trade down from #34 will get much more than 2 4th rounders. It could add a late 2nd and a 3rd.
According to ye olde trade chart we'd need to move down to the mid-second to pick up a late third. But that's just a guideline and it doesn't consider how keen the other team is to move up. If another team is after a QB, we could conceivably move down 8-10 spots and get a mid-third or more. That might be a good move depending on what our draft board looks like.
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