34th Overall Pick

WillH · 05-09-2014, 10:21 AM

I keep reading analysts talking about whether prospects would fit in the redskins zone blocking scheme. Is that part of Gruden's scheme? Have they said for sure that zone blocking will continue to be part of our offensive scheme?

That Guy · 05-09-2014, 10:31 AM

yeah gruden said they'd be keeping it, and they kept the OL coach too.

Paintrain · 05-09-2014, 10:33 AM

My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.

KI Skins Fan · 05-09-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.

Move down twice?! Are you trying to give me a heart attack? I'll be watching, you know. I'm pretty sure I can't stand to wtach the Skins move down twice. If they do, I'm afraid I'll be a victim of draft stress before the Skins pick.

If they move down from #34, maybe I'll just watch the NBA playoffs and then check back on the draft late in the evening. It's a matter of survival, man.

diehardskin2982 · 05-09-2014, 10:49 AM

Louis Nix, Timmy Jernigan, or Cyrus Kouandjio. Oh my, I just pitched a tent!

Gary84Clark · 05-09-2014, 10:59 AM

Louis Nix looks like a clone of Vince Wilfork. At least in the face.

SirLK26 · 05-09-2014, 11:10 AM

If Houston takes Su'a-Filo, we need to trade back several spots, likely with a team who wants a QB. We could trade back, get another pick in the 3rd(laugh at me if that's outrageous; what do you think we could get for a trade back?), and still have one of those top rated players available.

Su'a-Filo is an excellent OG, and he's got a nasty streak on the field. He would likely be our best interior lineman by the end of the year.

Lotus · 05-09-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge.

If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'.

Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's.

I like the trade down, even trade down twice, idea.

Although, as KI Skins Fan has said, it will be frustrating to watch.

CRedskinsRule · 05-09-2014, 11:28 AM

i definitely would be ok with one trade down, maybe with Tampa Bay. I wouldn't want to go much further down.

over the mountain · 05-09-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I like the trade down, even trade down twice, idea.

Although, as KI Skins Fan has said, it will be frustrating to watch.

im not a big fan of moving down too much or just moving down to move down.

id personally rather have a 2nd rounder vs 2 4th rounders.

i dont mind moving down a few spots but i want to walk away from the draft with at least one penciled-in starter vs a handful of potential contributors.

go get talent.

talent wins.

Irrefutable · 05-09-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

im not a big fan of moving down too much or just moving down to move down.

id personally rather have a 2nd rounder vs 2 4th rounders.

i dont mind moving down a few spots but i want to walk away from the draft with at least one penciled-in starter vs a handful of potential contributors.

go get talent.

talent wins.

the Redskins have plenty of needs, and there is plenty of depth in this draft. It is erroneous to assume pick #40 is automatically worse than #34.

A trade down from #34 will get much more than 2 4th rounders. It could add a late 2nd and a 3rd.

SirLK26 · 05-09-2014, 12:05 PM

Draft value chart for those interested in moving down.

Walters Football Site: NFL Draft Value Chart

redskin37 · 05-09-2014, 12:08 PM

Moses and the rest is gravy.

Gary84Clark · 05-09-2014, 12:08 PM

Or move up a few spots from early 3rd round to late second?

KI Skins Fan · 05-09-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Irrefutable

the Redskins have plenty of needs, and there is plenty of depth in this draft. It is erroneous to assume pick #40 is automatically worse than #34.

A trade down from #34 will get much more than 2 4th rounders. It could add a late 2nd and a 3rd.

According to ye olde trade chart we'd need to move down to the mid-second to pick up a late third. But that's just a guideline and it doesn't consider how keen the other team is to move up. If another team is after a QB, we could conceivably move down 8-10 spots and get a mid-third or more. That might be a good move depending on what our draft board looks like.

05-09-2014, 10:21 AM	#526
WillH Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 788	Re: 34th Overall Pick I keep reading analysts talking about whether prospects would fit in the redskins zone blocking scheme. Is that part of Gruden's scheme? Have they said for sure that zone blocking will continue to be part of our offensive scheme?

05-09-2014, 10:31 AM	#527
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 31 Posts: 16,247	Re: 34th Overall Pick yeah gruden said they'd be keeping it, and they kept the OL coach too. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

05-09-2014, 10:33 AM	#528
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 43 Posts: 4,910	Re: 34th Overall Pick My first preference would be a trade down. There are no fewer than 6 players (Kouandijo, Moses, Bitonio, Van Noy, Su-a-Filo, Attaochu) that are left that could step in and make an immediate impact. If they can move down once, maybe twice and pick up additional picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round that would be huge. If they are stuck at 34, get Kouandijo as long as you're convinced the knee is sound and not a Malcolm Kelly situation. That may scare them towards Moses who I think has bigger bust potential not to mention I'm not sure I can stand 10 years of announcers thinking they're clever with 'watch Moses open up that running lane like he's parting the Red Sea!'. Dream haul would be Bitonio in the early 40's and Attaochu in the mid 50's. __________________ Challenge Greatness! Be A Leader! Make A Difference!

05-09-2014, 10:49 AM	#530
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,318	Re: 34th Overall Pick Louis Nix, Timmy Jernigan, or Cyrus Kouandjio. Oh my, I just pitched a tent! __________________ That got ugly fast

05-09-2014, 10:59 AM	#531
Gary84Clark Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 745	Re: 34th Overall Pick Louis Nix looks like a clone of Vince Wilfork. At least in the face.

05-09-2014, 11:10 AM	#532
SirLK26 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 1,186	Re: 34th Overall Pick If Houston takes Su'a-Filo, we need to trade back several spots, likely with a team who wants a QB. We could trade back, get another pick in the 3rd(laugh at me if that's outrageous; what do you think we could get for a trade back?), and still have one of those top rated players available. Su'a-Filo is an excellent OG, and he's got a nasty streak on the field. He would likely be our best interior lineman by the end of the year. __________________ "[Trent Murphy] is not going to stand there and be your b**. Be a gentleman, open doors for women, but when s* hits the fan, he wants to whip you." - Jerry Murphy MoveOn Petitions - Keep the Washington Redskins Name

05-09-2014, 11:28 AM	#534
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 47 Posts: 12,389	Re: 34th Overall Pick i definitely would be ok with one trade down, maybe with Tampa Bay. I wouldn't want to go much further down. __________________ Dirtbag59, sending songs to oblivion 1 writer at a time.

05-09-2014, 12:05 PM	#537
SirLK26 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 1,186	Re: 34th Overall Pick Draft value chart for those interested in moving down. Walters Football Site: NFL Draft Value Chart __________________ "[Trent Murphy] is not going to stand there and be your b**. Be a gentleman, open doors for women, but when s* hits the fan, he wants to whip you." - Jerry Murphy MoveOn Petitions - Keep the Washington Redskins Name

05-09-2014, 12:08 PM	#538
redskin37 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oneida N.Y Posts: 131	Re: 34th Overall Pick Moses and the rest is gravy.

05-09-2014, 12:08 PM	#539
Gary84Clark Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 745	Re: 34th Overall Pick Or move up a few spots from early 3rd round to late second?

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