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View Poll Results: Do you approve of the Jason Campbell pick?
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:33 PM   #61
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Re: Jason Campbell

rogers said that jacobs was the hardest receiver he ever had to cover in college. And bailey said in jacobs first training camp that he was the best wr on our team. Dotn be surprised if hes our number two receiver this year. He needs to be given a chance to start.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:34 PM   #62
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Would you equate McCants to what Williams projects to be?
No, but he is a big, move the chains, red zone target. If they would only let him on the field.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:01 PM   #63
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Re: Jason Campbell

We did not need to waste our 1st round pick on Campbell. We could have traded for a 2nd round pick and got him easily. Look who picked after us. Seattle, Atlanta, SD, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Philly, and NE. None of these teams would have picked up Campbell. We could have picked up Heath Miller!! I think he would have helped our offense a lot more now and in the future than Campbell.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:10 PM   #64
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We did not need to waste our 1st round pick on Campbell. We could have traded for a 2nd round pick and got him easily. Look who picked after us. Seattle, Atlanta, SD, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Philly, and NE. None of these teams would have picked up Campbell. We could have picked up Heath Miller!! I think he would have helped our offense a lot more now and in the future than Campbell.
Maybe they tried to trade down but didn't have any takers...no one knows but the FO I guess...
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:17 PM   #65
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Re: Jason Campbell

Perhaps in 2-3 years we'll be applauding this selection, right now it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Only time will tell.

Perhaps Ramsey isn't the answer.

Perhaps this selection was more of a move directed towards Brunell's sharp decline and the likelihood he won't be here after next season rather than a shot at Ramsey.

It's all in Ramsey's hands now. He can step up to the pressure and competition and shine, or he could wilt under the same pressure and competition.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:21 PM   #66
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Maybe they tried to trade down but didn't have any takers...no one knows but the FO I guess...
Judging by the length of the first round, seems like a lot of teams were trying to move down, problem was there wasn't anybody on the board that excited anyone enough to move up.

A lot of teams were talking, nobody wanted any action though.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:30 PM   #67
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Re: Jason Campbell

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Perhaps in 2-3 years we'll be applauding this selection, right now it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Only time will tell.

Perhaps Ramsey isn't the answer.

Perhaps this selection was more of a move directed towards Brunell's sharp decline and the likelihood he won't be here after next season rather than a shot at Ramsey.

It's all in Ramsey's hands now. He can step up to the pressure and competition and shine, or he could wilt under the same pressure and competition.
I agree with that thought. Maybe its more of a move to help out if Brunell really has lost it(he has).

I really dont think Gibbs will start him this year unless there are some broken bones. So in the long term this was a good call. Plus he is most likely going to take over after Ramsey leaves.

What does this mean for Timmy Hasselbeck?
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:43 PM   #68
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What does this mean for Timmy Hasselbeck?

It has got to mean he is off the roster. Which I find a shame because I think he could be a servicable backup.
Mark B is the one on the roster that is a blackhole he has never shown me much.


I wonder what Campell thinks about going to a team that always seems in some sort of chaos and hasn't developed or had a decent QB in a dozen years.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:45 PM   #69
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Re: Jason Campbell

dont compare campbell to culpepper, brooks, mcnair and ... just because he is black.

ramsey is gone next year(i believe his contract is up). if ramsey plays great, we cant afford to keep him and ramsey probably hates the organization. if ramsey bombs, he will just go on to another team.
either way, he is gone after next year.

the best we can hope for is a good ramsey year, then we put the transition or franchise tag on him and we get back a #1 pick for him.

also, we should trade gardner and hasselbeck for any picks. we dont need hasselbeck this year and its time to move on with gardner(even though i like him )
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Old 04-24-2005, 12:10 AM   #70
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Re: Do you approve of the Jason Campbell pick?

It won't help the cause this year, but the kid has the tools to be molded by a qb coach who had a somewhat similarly talented qb recently(musgrave-leftwich). Ramsey will be the qb this year, but if Cambell makes good progress over the next 15 monthes or so, it could make the future choice of the starting qb a bit of a mystery.

If this doesn't pan out, this could turn into one of the skins worst draft decisions ever cuz of all the picks used to bring him into the fold.
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:15 AM   #71
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Re: Jason Campbell

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I think this was a smart pick for us. I dont think Ramsey is the answer for our team. He looked good two years ago, but I think Spurrier ruined him. He stands in the pocket with happy feet. He has no ability to step outside the pocket so he gets sacked all the time. And the bottom line is he doesnt make things happen. I will be the first to blame Gibbs for our horrible play calling last year. But Ramsey did nothign to impress me. He didnt look downfield, he didnt always make his throws. He isnt a leader of our team. Frankly, he looks scared when hes in the game in my opinion.

SC, anybody that we would have put back there would have looked scared, that's what happens when no one is open downfield and the opposing defense knows what your running.

We also know Gibbs doesn't think that way because if he did Ramsey wouldn't be the starter this season, Gibbs said this is a value pick not a need pick, which makes it even more ridiculous.
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:27 AM   #72
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Campbell gives us another weapon that we haven't had since Doug Williams. Campbell can move. He is a very mobile qb with an amazing arm. One reason he had to hold on to the ball is cause he had no recievers at Auburn and had to wait for them to get open. I have never been on the Ramsey bandwagon and will not be wether he takes to the playoffs or not. He is way to inconsistent with his play and will make more head scratching decisions then good ones. Our recieving core is still solid without Williams. We have Moss, Patten, Jacobs who showed tremendous upside last year, Thrash. Thats pretty solid to me. I feel Campbell brings a huge upgrade to the position. Just hope everyone that did not want Campbell here doesn't welcome him in. He will be a great qb for us.

What on earth are you talking about S4L? Williams wasen't remotly a mobile QB when we had him, in fact he replaced the best athlete we had at QB in 40 years in Jay Schroeder, Schroeder ran like a deer, and had an arm that would rival Elway. Campbell is not great athletically, he has decent mobility and a good arm not great.

I am glad you think he will be a great QB for us, cause he wasen't a great QB for Auburn, but once the game speeds up and all the players are twice as good as what he's seen in college, and the seperation for recievers is cut in half, that should really bring out the greatness in him. I guess when he consistantly hold's the ball to long in college and throws the ball up for grab's far to much that will all vanish once he has elite competition in front of him?
This pick was plain and simple an absolute JOKE!
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:28 AM   #73
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Re: Do you approve of the Jason Campbell pick?

I can't vote yes or no. I can easily justify the pick to myself and support my team's decision, but I don't have all the facts. Its almost like discussing the Iraqi War. Everyone has all the opinions, but no one has all the facts.

I'm comfortable with bringing him in, I just dont know if our first rounder next year will be worth it, but who knows, maybe this kid is the next McNabb. boy that'd be nice
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:42 AM   #74
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We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

I wish we could archive all the negative / postive comments on Campbell to bring up again in a couple of years. When he's the starting QB who gets us back into the playoffs using his abilities on Gibbs' beloved bootlegs, we could dig up all the "Gibbs is an idiot" and "so and so is smoking crack comments". If he is the next Brunell failure, we could dig up the "he'll be ok" or "we need a decent backup to Ramsey" comments. BTW, I'm guessing he's going to turn out to be just fine. Log it!
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:56 AM   #75
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

To me it makes sense. If Ramsey doesn't produce, then draft a QB next year? Gibbs doesn't have that long. Might as well have a backup plan because clearly Brunell and Hasse are not the answer.
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