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View Poll Results: Do you approve of the Jason Campbell pick?
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:02 PM   #91
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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In some ways the pick makes a lot of sense. Campbell isn't likely to see any action this year, but his arrival may speed Brunell out after June 1st. Basically, we will have spent next year's draft pick on next year's player - if Ramsey doesn't pull a Drew Brees.

If Ramsey does step way up, we have the same possibilities that San Diego has right now. A veteran with a solid year (and considerable trade value), and a "rookie" with a year of practice and experience under his belt.

We didn't need Campbell to do that Brunell did that all by himself.

Please, please, lets not compare Campbell to Rivers. Campbell push Ramsey? You actually have to have NFL ability to push a pro QB, this kid is going no where, and with that pick and what we gave up to get him we are now officially the laughing stock of the NFL. Not one annalist has stated that this was a good pick, and not one has said we recieved good value picking him at this spot, Kiper should have attacked management like he did the colt's when they took Trev Alberts.

Push Ramsey? If I where Ramsey I would show at training camp this summer with a lawn chair and a glass of lemonade!
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:04 PM   #92
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Re: Jason Campbell

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please, how the heck would Ramsey know if anyone was open downfield. When did he ever look downfield? He dumped it off on a five yard route before anyone could get downfield

And Gibbs is lying when he says its a value pick and ont a need pick. IF we had the 25pth pick in the draft and campbell fell to us, and we took him, then its a value pick. When you trade you draft for next year to get a guy, prior to the draft for that matter, you arent doing it for value. Campbell is our qb of the future, start saying goodbye to ramsey

SC, surely you make me laugh!
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:08 PM   #93
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It's insurance. Plain and simple. The more you think about it makes sense. Ramsey's contract ends in 2006. So this will give us the chance to have Campbell develope while Ramsey plays. Then if Ramsey is the second coming of Favre were set, if not we have a guy who has two years under his belt, knows the system and is ready to play.

I honestly hope that Campbell doesnt have to take a snap until 2 full years from now.

This year he is our #3. Next year Brunell gets the chop and he is our #2 and we will bring in some veteren as our #3.

We will be drafting another QB if Ramsey leaves, so get ready for that in a few years.

Insurance? That's like buying flood insurance when you live on top of a mountain!
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:19 PM   #94
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

How do you figure we gave up two first round picks for Campbell? We only had the 9th pick in the first round this year, so in essence we gave up next years 1st & 4th plus this years 3rd for him. Considering how difficult it might be to sing a 1st rounder next year anyway, this could be a good move. Only time will tell whether it's good or not so good
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:46 PM   #95
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Re: Jason Campbell

There some angry folks on the thread.
I can't believe what I am reading on some of them...especially from some of the huge Ramsey loyalists.
Someone said, "I am glad you think he (Campbell) will be a great QB for us, cause he wasen't a great QB for Auburn,..."
Huh? Wasn't a great QB for Auburn?
Campbell despite having 4 different offensive coordinators and systems in his four years at Auburn,still managed to have a 62% CAREER completion record.
With an SEC Championship on the line, Jason Campbell threw for a career-high 374 yards and three touchdowns againsts Tennessee to win the 2004 SEC Championship. The win completed Auburnís first-ever 12-0 season. Named the gameís MVP, Campbell also rushed 13 times for 57 yards. His 374 passing yards and 431 total yards are SEC Championship game records.
He finished his senior year with 19 td's and only 7 int.
For the guys that say Ramsey is better prospect...Ramsey's Tulane played in the Conference USA. In 2000, Ramsey ledTulane to a 1-10 record against NCAA powerhouses like:
1) Sam Houston State
2) Northwestern State
3) Louisiana-Monroe
4) Middle Tennessee
Ramsey had his biggest career day against Navy. WOW!

Auburn on the other hand plays in the SEC. While they play one or two weak teams at the start of the year (like most teams) , the rest of the SEC has real teams like:
Georgia
LSU
Florida
Alabama
Arkansas
South Carolina
Someone mentioned the game will speed up for Campbell from SEC to NFL.
How about the speed up from the Confrence USA (Tulane) to NFL? I think Ramsey is still trying to catch up to the NFL.
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:48 PM   #96
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Insurance? That's like buying flood insurance when you live on top of a mountain!
Ramsey is the top of the Mountain.
LOL!
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:23 PM   #97
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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Campbell actually cost the team TWO first rounders (the #25 pick this year AND the first rounder in 2006), plus the 3rd and 4th rounders. Pretty steep price for a guy that's not a surefire stud, and won't help the team for another 2 to 3 years, at least.

I was hoping they'd take Heath Miller, Roddy White, or a defensive end or linebacker. Anything but a quarterback with that pick. No matter who they took, though, it would be hard for them to prove worthy of two first-rounders, a 3rd and a 4th. Bad, bad draft management in my opinion.
Concur with ya Joe......too high high a price ........put me down for a
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Bad draft management, bad front office, bad scouts, with goes right along with your bad clock management from last year, bad mistakes (stupid penalties), which translates to what we are a team with a BAD record...... Would have preferred Roddy White, DE, LB.......save QB for the 4th or better NEXT YEAR.........
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:33 PM   #98
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Inside Opinion on Campbell

So... I was talking to my friend who does all of the video work for the Ole Miss football team. In doing his job, he has daily interaction with all of the coaching staff for the team. And the offensive coordinator for Ole Miss used to be Jason Campbell's OC at Auburn. When he heard that the Skins had drafted Campbell, my buddy asked the coach what he thought about it. The coach's reply was that Jason Campbell was "one of the dumbest players I've ever coached." Now, this could just be sour grapes from the coach, especially when you consider that Campbell did perform well at Auburn but when you add that to his single digit Wonderlic test, it does start to make sense... I just wonder how he'll handle a Jim Johnson blitz or a Belichick coverage scheme? What a shitty time to love this team.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:39 PM   #99
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Re: Inside Opinion on Campbell

o great the news just keeps getting better and better
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:41 PM   #100
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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Campbell push Ramsey? You actually have to have NFL ability to push a pro QB, this kid is going no where, and with that pick and what we gave up to get him we are now officially the laughing stock of the NFL......

Push Ramsey? If I where Ramsey I would show at training camp this summer with a lawn chair and a glass of lemonade!

Because Ramsey is such an accomplished pro QB?
Ramsey is a slightly above average NFL QB. That is it.
Before the NFL, Ramsey played for for Tulane of the USA conference in college.
Look at Tulane's schedule and record during Ramseys tenure. Terrible. Ramsey's career NCAA and NFL win-loss record is terrible.
I really like Campbell. The jump (in speed) from the SEC to NFLl is not as great at the jump from Conference USA to NFL.
Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
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Re: Inside Opinion on Campbell

What exactly was his wonderlic score, I thought it was 16??

Who cares anyway. I'll be honest and say my SAT's stunk in high school (900), and here I am today finishing up my MBA.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:44 PM   #102
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

The price was too high to get the pick that aquired Campbell. But picking Campbell at 25 is a value pick. People talk about the great QB's coming oput next year. If they are that great they will be top 1 or 2 picks. It is highly unlikley we will have a top 2 or 3 pick next year even if we kept our 2006 #1.
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Re: Inside Opinion on Campbell

Matty- I agree on some level, that it matters more how he does on the field. But if he really isn't that smart than how do we expect him to make the improvements and adjustments in his game to handle NFL level competition? I'd heard his wonderlic was an 8 and a 16 so if anyone can clear that up, then great... I think Alex Smith had a 40 by comparison.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:46 PM   #104
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

Write this down, I am against this pick and think that we will not only regret it for having and paying Jason Campbell but for the loss of the picks we traded away to get #25.
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
I don't think you can blame Ramsey on his STILL trying to catch up to NFL speed. Just consider how many head coaches, and how many systems the guy had to endure............blame the Redskin organization......
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