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View Poll Results: Do you approve of the Jason Campbell pick?
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:33 PM   #91
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Inside Opinion on Campbell

So... I was talking to my friend who does all of the video work for the Ole Miss football team. In doing his job, he has daily interaction with all of the coaching staff for the team. And the offensive coordinator for Ole Miss used to be Jason Campbell's OC at Auburn. When he heard that the Skins had drafted Campbell, my buddy asked the coach what he thought about it. The coach's reply was that Jason Campbell was "one of the dumbest players I've ever coached." Now, this could just be sour grapes from the coach, especially when you consider that Campbell did perform well at Auburn but when you add that to his single digit Wonderlic test, it does start to make sense... I just wonder how he'll handle a Jim Johnson blitz or a Belichick coverage scheme? What a shitty time to love this team.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:39 PM   #92
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Re: Inside Opinion on Campbell

o great the news just keeps getting better and better
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:41 PM   #93
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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Campbell push Ramsey? You actually have to have NFL ability to push a pro QB, this kid is going no where, and with that pick and what we gave up to get him we are now officially the laughing stock of the NFL......

Push Ramsey? If I where Ramsey I would show at training camp this summer with a lawn chair and a glass of lemonade!

Because Ramsey is such an accomplished pro QB?
Ramsey is a slightly above average NFL QB. That is it.
Before the NFL, Ramsey played for for Tulane of the USA conference in college.
Look at Tulane's schedule and record during Ramseys tenure. Terrible. Ramsey's career NCAA and NFL win-loss record is terrible.
I really like Campbell. The jump (in speed) from the SEC to NFLl is not as great at the jump from Conference USA to NFL.
Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:42 PM   #94
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Re: Inside Opinion on Campbell

What exactly was his wonderlic score, I thought it was 16??

Who cares anyway. I'll be honest and say my SAT's stunk in high school (900), and here I am today finishing up my MBA.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:44 PM   #95
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

The price was too high to get the pick that aquired Campbell. But picking Campbell at 25 is a value pick. People talk about the great QB's coming oput next year. If they are that great they will be top 1 or 2 picks. It is highly unlikley we will have a top 2 or 3 pick next year even if we kept our 2006 #1.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:45 PM   #96
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Matty- I agree on some level, that it matters more how he does on the field. But if he really isn't that smart than how do we expect him to make the improvements and adjustments in his game to handle NFL level competition? I'd heard his wonderlic was an 8 and a 16 so if anyone can clear that up, then great... I think Alex Smith had a 40 by comparison.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:46 PM   #97
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

Write this down, I am against this pick and think that we will not only regret it for having and paying Jason Campbell but for the loss of the picks we traded away to get #25.
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Old 04-24-2005, 02:49 PM   #98
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
I don't think you can blame Ramsey on his STILL trying to catch up to NFL speed. Just consider how many head coaches, and how many systems the guy had to endure............blame the Redskin organization......
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:02 PM   #99
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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I don't think you can blame Ramsey on his STILL trying to catch up to NFL speed. Just consider how many head coaches, and how many systems the guy had to endure............blame the Redskin organization......
That is funny because Campbell had more offensive systems and offensive coordinator changes in the last four years than Ramsey. Campbell had 4 in four years and still did really well.
Because alot of people are calling Campbell mediocre college player I started to read more about the great and incredible Ramseys college career. HiIs team was 1-10 his jr. year and 3-9 his senior year. His biggest career day (stat wise) in college was against Navy. LOL
If you call Campbells career not so spectacular, Ramsey must be labeled as crap.
Yes, Ramsey had inflated stats in regards to yards in college, but look at the teams and defenses he was playing against. Crappy teams.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:04 PM   #100
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can anybody say Heath Shuler
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:05 PM   #101
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better than Brunell......everyone back of Campbell, if he was that Dumb then he was smarter than the staff, to convince them to draft him
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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You can't judge a college QB by wins and loses, the teams are to unbalanced. how many QB's have unbelievable winninf records and don't even get drafted? To many!

Perhaps it's because he played in a college system under SS, and now an outdated system under Gibbs for 1/2 a season I might add, infact Gibbs system went backwards from his first tenure so don't lay our problems at ramseys feet he needs some help from the coaches as well.
I agree you can not judge them on only one stat alone. But in all stats Campbell was very good. Completetion %, TD to INT %, W-L, and most importantly he did all of this against some very good teams, defenses, and talent.
Ramsey on the other had inflated stats against some weak teams. I can tell there are not many future NFL players on the college teams (defenses) that Ramsey played against.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:11 PM   #103
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better than Brunell......everyone back of Campbell, if he was that Dumb then he was smarter than the staff, to convince them to draft him

The sad part is you're not far off. Damn it.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:34 PM   #104
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Yea but you can say that about Jerry Rice, Walter Payton and on and on.
Yeah, but Rice and Payton had great careers in the NFL from day one. Ramsey has not shown sustained gretness in three plus years. Payton started on a bad Bears team and he still played great. You can not say that about Ramsey. Don't get me wrong I am not saying Ramsey is bad player. But he is not great either.
I like Ramsey. I just think some Ramsey fans are being overly critical of Cambell, while at the same time are talking about how great ramsey will be this season. I hope Ramsey takes us to the SB this year. But that does not take away from what Campbell has accomplished in his career.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:42 PM   #105
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Re: We need to document the yeh's vs. the ney's concerning Campbell

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That is funny because Campbell had more offensive systems and offensive coordinator changes in the last four years than Ramsey. Campbell had 4 in four years and still did really well.
Because alot of people are calling Campbell mediocre college player I started to read more about the great and incredible Ramseys college career. HiIs team was 1-10 his jr. year and 3-9 his senior year. His biggest career day (stat wise) in college was against Navy. LOL
If you call Campbells career not so spectacular, Ramsey must be labeled as crap.
Yes, Ramsey had inflated stats in regards to yards in college, but look at the teams and defenses he was playing against. Crappy teams.
The issue here wasn't Campbell and his college career, it was why Ramsey hasn't grown as a QB in the NFL...how can you have a chance when your laying on the turf because your coach doesn't fit the players he has with a system, he plays his sytem anyway, and what if you have no line....but if you are strictly going by teams and defenses players play against in college, then the Redskins should never have drafted Darrell Green using this logic................
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