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Old 03-23-2016, 07:15 PM   #1
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A Closer Look at the 2016 Safety Class

For the past couple of years I've focused my draft attention primarily on the Safety position.

Jay's recent comments (Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden concerned about safety depth - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN) about our S group once again brings the spotlight onto the Safeties. There is good reason for concern with 3 of the top 4 S returning from injury and the 4th transitioning from CB. Although there is always Dash as a fall back option through FA.

Anyhow this thread will be a look at the 2016 S class through breaking down their available film on Draft Breakdown | NFL Draft Prospect Videos and More and NOONKICK | FOOTBAWWW

Below is nfl.com draft profiles, which serves as a starting point list:

Player Pos Ht Wt College Grade

Neal, Keanu SS 6'0" 211 Florida 5.8
Joseph, Karl S 5'10" 205 West Virginia 5.7
Bell, Vonn FS 5'11" 199 Ohio St. 5.6
Killebrew, Miles SS 6'2" 217 Southern Utah 5.6
Cash, Jeremy SS 6'0" 212 Duke 5.6
Houston-Carson, DeAndre FS 6'1" 201 William & Mary 5.5
Green, T.J. FS 6'2" 209 Clemson 5.5
Thompson, Darian S 6'2" 208 Boise St. 5.5
Kearse, Jayron S 6'4" 216 Clemson 5.3
Mills, Jalen FS 6'0" 191 LSU 5.3
Frazier, Kavon SS 6'0" 217 Central Michigan 5.3
Simmons, Justin FS 6'2" 202 Boston College 5.3
Powell, Tyvis FS 6'3" 211 Ohio St. 5.3
Byard, Kevin S 5'11" 216 Middle Tennessee St. 5.2
Bush, Deon S 6'0" 199 Miami 5.2
Dillon, K.J. S 6'0" 210 West Virginia 5.2
Lucas, Jordan SS 6'0" 201 Penn St. 5.1
Carter, Tevin SS 6'1" 218 Utah 5.1
Shumate, Elijah S 6'0" 216 Notre Dame 5.1
Kindred, Derrick FS 5'10" 207 TCU 5.1
Fejedelem, Clayton S 6'1" 200 Illinois 5.1
Lomax, Jordan FS 5'10" 202 Iowa 4.9
Elston, Trae S 5'11" 195 Mississippi 4.9
Middleton, Doug SS 6'0" 210 Appalachian St. 4.9
Brutus, Lamarcus SS 6'0" 206 Florida St. 4.9
Caputo, Michael SS 6'0" 200 Wisconsin 4.9
Stewart, Trevon S 5'10" 195 Houston 4.8
Stamps, A.J. FS 5'11" 193 Kentucky 4.8
Williamson, R.J. S 6'0" 216 Michigan St. 4.8
Golden, Jamal SS 6'0" 195 Georgia Tech 4.8
Simone, Jordan S 5'11" 190 Arizona State 4.6


cbs FS list: (ranking--player--position--measureables--round projection)

2 *Jalen Ramsey FS 1 Florida State Jr 6-1 209 1
67 Jalen Mills FS 2 LSU Sr 6-0 191 2-3
89 *T.J. Green FS 3 Clemson Jr 6-2 209 3
97 Darian Thompson FS 4 Boise State rSr 6-2 208 3
138 Sean Davis FS 5 Maryland Sr 6-1 201 4-5
172 DeAndre Houston-Carson FS 6 William & Mary rSr 6-1 201 5
184 Justin Simmons FS 7 Boston College Sr 6-2 202 5-6
204 *Tyvis Powell FS 8 Ohio State rJr 6-3 211 6
212 Kavon FrazierInjured FS 9 Central Michigan Sr 6-0 217 6
229 *Keanu Neal FS 10 Florida Jr 6-0 211 6-7

cbs SS list: (ranking--player--position--measureables--round projection)


47 *Vonn Bell SS 1 Ohio State Jr 5-11 199 2
53 Jeremy Cash SS 2 Duke rSr 6-0 212 2
80 Karl JosephInjured SS 3 West Virginia Sr 5-10 205 2-3
113 Miles Killebrew SS 4 Southern Utah Sr 6-2 217 3-4
152 *Jayron Kearse SS 5 Clemson Jr 6-4 216 4-5
169 KJ Dillon SS 6 West Virginia Sr 6-0 210 5
191 Kevin Byard SS 7 Middle Tennessee rSr 5-11 216 5-6
210 Jordan LucasInjured SS 8 Penn State Sr 6-0 201 6
225 Trae Elston SS 9 Ole Miss Sr 5-11 195 6-7
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:16 PM   #2
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Re: A Closer Look at the 2016 Safety Class

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Old 03-25-2016, 06:29 PM   #3
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Re: A Closer Look at the 2016 Safety Class

I'll start with Kevin Byard:



23 Snaps

4 @ Center Field FS
2 in the Box
17 Half Field FS/Cover 2

Positives:
8 tackles
1 pile jump
1 TFL
1 Penalty

4 Coverage plays with solid coverage, that denied pass attempts
2 PD
1 INT

Negatives:
o 44s (proly not even his fault, my guess is the CB had outside and Byard had inside)
o final play ejection, personal foul targeting (I disagree with the call but waygd?)

Examples:
1:21 Audible/lining up (L) CB to play off coverage
2:14 change direction solo tackle on Henry
2:31 tight coverage on flag route, pass defense 1
3:09 fills lane, fights off block, gets on horse and chases down Drake to save a TD
3:42 tight coverage, pass defense 2, INT
5:15 good angle, TFL

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Re: A Closer Look at the 2016 Safety Class

The safety crop this year really bums me out because we need to fix this position so badly.
I dont see anyone that I would use our first pick on.
I wouldn't mind Miles Killebrew in the 4th though.
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The safety crop this year really bums me out because we need to fix this position so badly.
I dont see anyone that I would use our first pick on.
I wouldn't mind Miles Killebrew in the 4th though.
Why are you bummed by this S draft class?

My questions about our S spot aren't about talent but health. I think Hall can lock down 1 spot but then comes health concerns. IF Bruton and Nacho return healthy then between the 2 of them they can lock down another spot and bring quality depth.

I recall talking about Killebrew around the combine. His reputation as a big hitter is missing from his tape (limited sample size tho) and his measureables were surprisingly average looking at his physique. For me I would peg him more as a late round guy.

While there proly isn't a 1st rounder i think there are some quality SAF in this class this class. And depending on Karl Joseph proday 40 he might sneak into 1st round.

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I'm bummed because thats where I would have spent the first pick....on some kick ass safety that can shut down tight ends.
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I'm bummed because thats where I would have spent the first pick....on some kick ass safety that can shut down tight ends.
If the draft worked out exactly to have the 1st round pick line up with BPA at a position of need for me those position would be:

(1) My number 1 would always be pass rusher (2) CB (3) NT (4) DE (5) ILB

But, getting back to S. How much have you looked at them?
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If the draft worked out exactly to have the 1st round pick line up with BPA at a position of need for me those position would be:

(1) My number 1 would always be pass rusher (2) CB (3) NT (4) DE (5) ILB

But, getting back to S. How much have you looked at them?
Enough....but my last name isnt Mayock.
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Re: A Closer Look at the 2016 Safety Class

Two safeties who have caught my eyes...SS Miles Killbrew and FS Houston-Carson.

These seem like McC type players who will be there 4-6 rounds. I'm endorsing both these guys.

30gut, thoughts?
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Two safeties who have caught my eyes...SS Miles Killbrew and FS Houston-Carson.

These seem like McC type players who will be there 4-6 rounds. I'm endorsing both these guys.

30gut, thoughts?
I haven't watched Houston-Carson yet so I don't have an opinion on him.

Unless draftbreakdown has new games on Killebrew the tape I saw left me underwhelmed.

I'm curious what you see that you like about them?

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I haven't watched Houston-Carson yet so I don't have an opinion on him.

Unless draftbreakdown has new games on Killebrew the tape I saw left me underwhelmed.

I'm curious what you see that you like about them?

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Physical and size for killebrew. Hard httin. Houstone csrson, nice range and leader in the secondary.
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Physical and size for killebrew. Hard httin. Houstone csrson, nice range and leader in the secondary.
I agree that Killebrew looks the part. But hard hitting? Didn't see it on film.

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I agree that Killebrew looks the part. But hard hitting? Didn't see it on film.

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that Killebrew kid looks like a big play waiting to happen!

he can cover ground & he can certainly make an open field tackle and doesn't quit on a play.
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Almost every prospect will look good in a highlight reel.

But, when you watchs his game film do you see a big hitter?



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