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Old 01-29-2017, 10:51 AM   #91
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Here's what my untrained eyes are seeing...

Looking purely at how some of the top d-linemen played in big games this year, I was a little underwhelmed. I want DL more than anyone, but I don't want us to waste a #17 pick either.

Myles Garrett (T A&M) against Alabama/LSU - not impressed
Caleb Brantley (Fla) against Alabama - non-factor
Derek Barnett (Tenn)- against Alabama - non-factor
Chris Wormly (Mich) - against Fla State - pedestrian
Montravious Adams (Aub) - against Alabama & Clemson - some flashes, some plays off

The guys I really liked so far - guys with high motors & forced an impact
Jonathan Allen (Ala)
Soloman Thomas (Stan)
Taco Charlton (Mich)
Malik McDowell (Mich St)
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:39 AM   #92
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I think Allen will be long gone by the time we pick. Charlton is my fav. He was so disruptive in the games I saw. Like you said, real high motor, quick first step, he has a burst and that's what's we're sorely missing. He'd be my pick at 17, if he's still there.
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I think Allen will be long gone by the time we pick. Charlton is my fav. He was so disruptive in the games I saw. Like you said, real high motor, quick first step, he has a burst and that's what's we're sorely missing. He'd be my pick at 17, if he's still there.
assuming you are right about Charlton and he is the pick, where does he play ? They have Kerrigan, Smith, Murphy, and maybe Galette .
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Excellent answer, Thomas had 1 sack, several hurries, and 9 tackles in his bowl game. Before the game it appeared he would be available at # 17. It looks like a decent D line class, so a good one should be available.

The mock drafts are all over the place. And the combine has a big impact on picks, so it is still early.

Also will the new coach play a 4-3 ? Are they looking to replace Baker, or play next to him ? or a DE to replace Smith ?

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WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Defensive End Rankings
They better decide on whether or not the 3-4 stays soon. If it is kept, you will need a couple LBs to be acquired in the offseason along with a bona fide NT, along with the obvious DTs that should be the top priority. IF they go to the 4-3 Kerrigan can go back being a DE and possibly become a real beast again. Draft any defensive line stud there is!!!!! We will have a nice unit if a couple seasons. I just hope Kirk doesn't get too greedy and lets us just give him a longer deal so we can keep a decent amount of cap space to get a solid team setup for a change.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:09 PM   #95
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They better decide on whether or not the 3-4 stays soon. If it is kept, you will need a couple LBs to be acquired in the offseason along with a bona fide NT, along with the obvious DTs that should be the top priority. IF they go to the 4-3 Kerrigan can go back being a DE and possibly become a real beast again. Draft any defensive line stud there is!!!!! We will have a nice unit if a couple seasons. I just hope Kirk doesn't get too greedy and lets us just give him a longer deal so we can keep a decent amount of cap space to get a solid team setup for a change.
Manusky already said he's sticking with the 3-4. He wants a big NT, but didn't say they had to draft one. I'm not sure there is a current stud NT out there, but with Tomsula on board, he may be able to coach some guy up.

Either way, we can always find room for a stud DE (Chris Baker needs re-signed), so we actually still need 2 DE's right now. Trent Murphy may be asked to move to DE again this year, but Galette is no guarantee to return either.
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Manusky already said he's sticking with the 3-4. He wants a big NT, but didn't say they had to draft one. I'm not sure there is a current stud NT out there, but with Tomsula on board, he may be able to coach some guy up.

Either way, we can always find room for a stud DE (Chris Baker needs re-signed), so we actually still need 2 DE's right now. Trent Murphy may be asked to move to DE again this year, but Galette is no guarantee to return either.
Going to a 3-4 is a big mistake. They have no NT and no natural OLBs..... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not good OLBs. And to small as 3-4 DT/DEs. What are they going to do, play 5 LBs with two down lineman in passing situations ?

Hopefully this is a smokescreen by Manusky and they plan to play a 4-3, like they did a significant amount last year.
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Going to a 3-4 is a big mistake. They have no NT and no natural OLBs..... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not good OLBs. And to small as 3-4 DT/DEs. What are they going to do, play 5 LBs with two down lineman in passing situations ?

Hopefully this is a smokescreen by Manusky and they plan to play a 4-3, like they did a significant amount last year.
Yeah, it's both (3-4 & 4-3) -similar to last year....you can listen for yourself:


this is the recap...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Redskins/co...ker_and_brian/


Here's the actual recorded interview...
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assuming you are right about Charlton and he is the pick, where does he play ? They have Kerrigan, Smith, Murphy, and maybe Galette .
I'm a strong believer in best player available. The coaches will have to figure that one out.
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YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!


Your score is: 8653 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Raekwon McMillan, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 17: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 7: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (B-)
Round 4 Pick 17: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (C+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: C.J. Beathard, QB, Iowa (C-)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ashton Lampkin, CB, Oklahoma State (B-)

edromeo's Washington Redskins Draft Results 1/30/2017

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YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAME OVER!


Your score is: 8605 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (A-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (F)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (D+)
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YOUR TEAM: WASHINGTON REDSKINS
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Your score is: 8605 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 17: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 17: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 3 Pick 17: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 17: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 10: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (A-)
Round 5 Pick 17: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (B)
Round 6 Pick 17: Trent Taylor, WR, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 6 Pick 25: Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (F)
Round 7 Pick 17: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (D+)

I like this one
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Old 01-30-2017, 08:12 PM   #102
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I couldn't get 30Gut's site to work, so I found FanSpeak & gave that a shot. Two points to make clear- (1) I am not a BPA convert; needs are important to me & (2) I'm a Penn State grad & fan


R1 17 EDGE TACO CHARLTON, MICHIGAN
R2 17 S MARCUS WILLIAMS, UTAH
R3 17 DL DAVON GODCHAUX, LSU
R4 7 C ETHAN POCIC, LSU
R4 17 WR CHRIS GODWIN, PENN STATE
R5 10 LB MARQUEL LEE, WAKE FOREST
R6 17 LB HARVEY LANGI, BRIGHAM YOUNG
R6 25 RB TAQUAN MIZZELL, VIRGINIA
R7 17 LB BRANDON BELL, PENN STATE

I doubt that this would rate very high, but it was fun.
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Here's what my untrained eyes are seeing...

Looking purely at how some of the top d-linemen played in big games this year, I was a little underwhelmed. I want DL more than anyone, but I don't want us to waste a #17 pick either.

Myles Garrett (T A&M) against Alabama/LSU - not impressed
Caleb Brantley (Fla) against Alabama - non-factor
Derek Barnett (Tenn)- against Alabama - non-factor
Chris Wormly (Mich) - against Fla State - pedestrian
Montravious Adams (Aub) - against Alabama & Clemson - some flashes, some plays off

The guys I really liked so far - guys with high motors & forced an impact
Jonathan Allen (Ala)
Soloman Thomas (Stan)
Taco Charlton (Mich)
Malik McDowell (Mich St)
Thanks for the info...I've saw Derek Barnett stand out twice when playing this year.

I just hope we go defense with our first 3 picks...
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Solomon Thomas or Montravious Adams are my two top picks at that spot (unless one of the top two safeties fall to us).

Thomas was a freaking animal out there. Like straight tossing people around left and right.
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Mike Mayock names 10 standouts from Senior Bowl

Ive heard multiple scouts saying this guy is real deal: LB Haason Reddick, Temple
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