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Old 07-11-2006, 11:00 AM   #46
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Yeah, and I'm on record saying Taylor shouldn't have been ejected for that. But I'm not going to go there again.

There is a difference though. When Taylor was sent out, we could replace him with Prioleau. When Zidane went out, Italy got a one-man advantage FOR THE REST OF THE GAME. It has too great an affect on the outcome.
That's all the more reason that Zidane should have been smarter about the whole thing.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:00 AM   #47
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I said before, Zidane obviously knows how to use his head to his advantage from years of playing soccer.
Also, the italian was running into it, which probably increased the force of the impact.
And, third, Zidane actually could have literally killed him with that shot. I know it sounds like I'm being dramatic, but it could have stopped his heart. A year or two ago the captain for Cornell's Lax team was killed when he took a ball to the chest because it caused his heart to stop. Likewise, I remember reading a few years ago that some drunk friends were trying to see who could withstand the hardest punch to the chest. One of them died when his sternum cracked and stopped his heart.

I just feel like the more I see that hit the worse it gets.

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That's definitely pretty dramatic. You know the odds on that happening? That's like me dressing in rubber clothing everytime I go out in a thunderstorm for fear of getting hit by lightning.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:03 AM   #48
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That's all the more reason that Zidane should have been smarter about the whole thing.
Oh yeah, no doubt. He should know the rules and he's a moron. I can't fault the Italian for trying to instigate. And Zidane should know that a red-card would basically end his chances at winning. He knows the rules and he should play by them.

But I hate that rule. It's ridiculous. One act and you're gone for the whole game, man-advantage for the other team. That's not soccer, it becomes a game of who can piss the other players off to the point where they lash out. Pretty lame.
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That's definitely pretty dramatic. You know the odds on that happening? That's like me dressing in rubber clothing everytime I go out in a thunderstorm for fear of getting hit by lightning.
Maybe saying he could have killed him is going a bit overboard, but he definitely could have cracked his sternum. I knew a kid in high school that cracked his own sternum during a wrestling match on a simple take down. If you hit it right it's going to crack, and that headbutt realy could have done some damage.

Plus, I feel like that incident was seperate from all the obvious flopping that goes on in soccer. No matter how you look at it, Zidane blatantly broke the rules and he had to face the consequences for that. Also, the ref has to kick a player out for an action like that in order to maintain order in the game. If Zidane had been allowed to stay in I'd be willing to bet a ton that a fight would have quickly broken out.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:50 AM   #50
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Maybe saying he could have killed him is going a bit overboard, but he definitely could have cracked his sternum. I knew a kid in high school that cracked his own sternum during a wrestling match on a simple take down. If you hit it right it's going to crack, and that headbutt realy could have done some damage.

Plus, I feel like that incident was seperate from all the obvious flopping that goes on in soccer. No matter how you look at it, Zidane blatantly broke the rules and he had to face the consequences for that. Also, the ref has to kick a player out for an action like that in order to maintain order in the game. If Zidane had been allowed to stay in I'd be willing to bet a ton that a fight would have quickly broken out.
You're right. I agree that specific incident merited an ejection. It was a blatant attack on a player. A physical attack like that is worse than spitting and deserves an ejection.

I guess I just take issue with the rule in general. It's set up to encourage instigation of this type of response. I think Soccer should do it like either Football or Hockey. If you're going to eject a player for something like this, let the team replace him, don't give a man-advantage for the rest of the game. Or at least have a penaty box where you have the man-advantage for only 5 or 10 minutes.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:49 PM   #51
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Did you know they're considering injecting trout with creatine to make sport fishing more "challenging".
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Did you know they're considering injecting trout with creatine to make sport fishing more "challenging".
juiced up fish??

sounds like a bad fishing story to me.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:03 PM   #53
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I heard the boneheaded Frenchie won the Golden Ball Outstanding Player award for the World Cup.

He lost the championship for his team because he's an immature and violent fool..and they say he's the best player.

YET MORE proof that soccer is pathetic!
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Here it is...he got the Golden Ball.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:07 PM   #55
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HA! The "MVP" scored 3 goals in the whole tournament. He as many yellow cards as goals, and a red card on top of that.

Soccer is dumb. I'm ready for REAL football in the news.
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The main sponsors of soccor icon Zinedine Zidane rallied around the retiring France Football captain on Tuesday despite his dismissal for head-butting an opponent in the closing stages of Sunday's World Cup Final. Sponsors from food group Danone to German sports goods giants Adidas rushed to support the man who fired France to victory in the 1998 World Cup.

Adidas, Zidane's long time sponser, said they are launching a website so that fans can perosnally thank him. They also said that he has been their ambassador for the past 10 years and will remain so through 2017. In fact, and I'm quoting Reuters, they said he can remain as long as he wishes.

This guy makes $11 million dollars a year from endorsements!! Wow!
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:33 PM   #57
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Maybe he can be the new spokesman for "Advil: The Headache Medicine".
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I must admit that I lost respect for Zidane after watching the head-butt (yes, I was watching the game live). However, after understanding what Materazzi said (from the deaf lip reader), I don't blame him one bit. Soccer is important to Zidane, and the World Cup is important to Zidane, but neither is more important than the dignity of his mother and his family (and the head-butt shows that). I totally understand why he did that, and I would not expect him to react any differently now (even after the world's reaction). He simply doesn't care enough about soccer or the world cup to allow some one to say something like that without retaliation.

Props for Zidane.
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HA! The "MVP" scored 3 goals in the whole tournament.
3 goals is actually a lot. There was only one player in the world cup with more (Klose with 5, and they didn't make it to the finals)--everyone else had three or less.
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In 1998, didn't Zidane pull a Marcus Vick and stomp on some Saudi Arabian player while he was lying on the ground? Was he provoked then also?
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