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Old 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM   #16
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Re: Jared Jeffries to the Knicks

If I may channel Allen Iverson for a minute....We talkin' bout Jarred Jeffries. Jeffries. Jarred. Jarred Jeffries. Not Caron, not Arenas. Jarred Jeffries. What are we talking about people? Jarred Jeffries. Not Caron. Not Caron. Jeffries. C'mon now. We talkin' bout Jarred Jeffries. Not Arenas. Jeffries.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:17 PM   #17
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I just want to say if Arenas leaves we're pretty much back at base 1. Why don't the Wizards want to make themselves into contenders? It's like they're happy just making the playoffs.
Exactly. Arenas is the WHOLE team. Without him, we are nothing. We should do anything, just short of moving the team, to appease him.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:18 PM   #18
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I just want to say if Arenas leaves we're pretty much back at base 1. Why don't the Wizards want to make themselves into contenders? It's like they're happy just making the playoffs.
This is the crux of what I'm getting at. It's not about Jeffries, per se. It's about team nucleus and building on that. Every year a starter leaves. If we had a dominant big, like a Shaq or someone in the middle it wouldn't hurt as much. I'm not sure you can sustain turnover year after year and hope to pass the second round of the playoffs.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM   #19
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The WP reported today that Jared Jeffries wants to play ball for the Knicks. I don't get it! Washington is clearly headed in the right direction, while the Knicks on the other hand are a dysfunctional mess.
Let's see...

The Knicks have a recent history of paying players ludicrous sums of money and expecting very little in return.

Why indeed.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:24 PM   #20
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matching the ridiculous NY contract would put us up near the luxury threshold... and would restrict us from pretty much any other moves. no way he's worth 6/year- that's what daniels gets paid and JJ doesn't come close to AD's production. plus there's a terrible trade kicker NY put in the contract that basically limits our options to the knicks or no one.

he's a decent perimeter defender, but he's a black hole on offense (not sure where it went as soon as he left indiana). in the princeton offense, we don't need an all star 2, but we do need someone who can knock down the open jumper. especially with all the cutting, our 2 needs to be able to consistently drain it when gil and caron move the defense.

i'm sure the FO will talk to gil before making the move- and i'm also confident jj isn't going to make or break gil's decision to stay in the future. do we really want to be albatrossed with jj's contract for 5 years? two words: etan thomas.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:35 PM   #21
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Re: Jared Jeffries to the Knicks

Guys, there's a salary cap in basketball. We couldn't come close to aggressively bidding for Ben Wallace, and it would strap us to even resign Jeffries. Yes this team has a history of letting player's go to blow up, but we are under different leadership now with Jordan and Grunfield. Let Larry Hughes be a perfect example - it was tough to let him go, but there's no question with a year's hindsight that it was the right fiscal move to make.

I don't understand why anyone would give up on the Wizards claiming they are in need of rebuilding....they have made the playoffs two years in a row after 20 years of losing. They aren't there yet but there's positive momentum surrounding this team for basically the second time in my lifetime.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:51 PM   #22
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the knicks are run by an absolute idiot. JJ is better than most are giving him credit for, and saying he wants to go to NY seems more like an agent trying to work the system, but he's not worth that much.

he is good, but man, the knicks are screwed up. last year i wanted hughes to stay, but he can't stay healthy and caron turned out to be better overall anyways. EG tends to know what he's doing....
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Old 07-31-2006, 07:01 PM   #23
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I don't think Jefferies is that good, plus he has horrible facial hair
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:24 PM   #24
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ESPN.com - NBA - Minimum wage: Wizards get a deal in guard Stevenson

this contract is really good (for the minimum)... jj's a goner.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:21 PM   #25
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Jared is just about to bloom too. That sucks I dont see how the Wizards are really cornering talent to get over that playoff hump. They need some quality big men though.
i honestly didn't see this FA crop having too many names this offseason anyway... I'd rather have stevenson at the minimum for a year or two than JJ at 6 per for the next 5 seasons. Remember, we've still gotta re-up Gil in a few years and twan comes off the books in two... by not resigning JJ, that leaves us with a future without hurting the present.

DS also shoots a better percentage than JJ- and he's not a bad defender at all. He'll be playing his butt off this upcoming season too, so he can opt out of the second year and get a big payday. This also gives some leeway to developing blatche (who will be better than both players in a few years) and negates the need to rely on jarvis hayes' knees.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:34 PM   #26
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JJ isn't the difference maker and he's not worth that contract. stevenson is a good deal. go EG, go.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:37 PM   #27
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i honestly didn't see this FA crop having too many names this offseason anyway... I'd rather have stevenson at the minimum for a year or two than JJ at 6 per for the next 5 seasons. Remember, we've still gotta re-up Gil in a few years and twan comes off the books in two... by not resigning JJ, that leaves us with a future without hurting the present.

DS also shoots a better percentage than JJ- and he's not a bad defender at all. He'll be playing his butt off this upcoming season too, so he can opt out of the second year and get a big payday. This also gives some leeway to developing blatche (who will be better than both players in a few years) and negates the need to rely on jarvis hayes' knees.
Exactly. Nice post. This is an absolute steal for the Wizards. It wasn't a secret that they were targeting Songaila and Stevenson this off-season. The feeling was that they'd have to choose on or the other. But here they are with both.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:45 AM   #28
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Jeffries isn't a scorer, but on the Bullets, he didn't have to be. He's a great team player, a hard worker, good defender, good inside player. With Arenas, Jamison, Butler...he didn't need to be a scorer. The loss won't hurt the team too much but I would've preferred that he stayed. Free agency will replace him though.

Good free agent replacements with similar games to Jeffries and would come cheap could be blah blah, DeShawn Stevenson (ORL), blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah.

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Old 08-04-2006, 11:48 AM   #29
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Re: Jared Jeffries to the Knicks

I can tell the Knicks won't be improving this year. If anything, although it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE, the could be WORSE this year with Isaiah Thomas coaching.

I love it. I never liked the Knicks.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:36 PM   #30
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Jared is just about to bloom too. That sucks I dont see how the Wizards are really cornering talent to get over that playoff hump. They need some quality big men though.

Jared should've "bloomed" last season. He played well in the playoffs, but it wasn't good enough to consider him a difference maker. If he blooms in NY, good for him. I'd rather have Blatche starting instead of Jeffries.
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