Kobe Bryant Suspension

FRPLG

anyone got the video?

Big C

that seemed a little more than incidental contact, especially his reaction afterwards. i dont know if he meant it or not but it sure looked suspicious. im more suprised there was no foul called on the play

Big C

there are plenty of floppers in basketball, everyone is trying to draw a charge, hell antonio daniels flops constantly for the wizards. guys like stockton specialized in it

hooskins

Exactly, the rules give way to the possibility of flopping and drawing fouls.

Also if you are gonna start getting upset over floppers what is next, is Reggie Miller a dirty player because he drew fouls by kicking out his legs when shooting???

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Mattyk

I really don't see what he did wrong. Seemed like it was pretty unintentional.

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GhettoDogAllStars

I read this on another forum and it pretty much says it all:
"[You're right], Kobe's arms have always flailed out sideways towards peoples faces when he shoots."

That's where the problem lies. What he did isn't something that happens under normal circumstances. Whether he meant to hurt Ginobili, or just keep him away from the ball doesn't really matter.

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FRPLG

BS. There is a major difference between attemtping to hurt someone and fouling them. I think intent needs to be a huge factor in decisions to suspend a player. The NBA is obviously wrong about his intent. No angle shows it in any way that can be reasonably determined to be intentionally harmful.

GhettoDogAllStars

I think Kobe intentionally flung his arm, and Ginobili was hurt as a result. Whether he meant to hurt Ginobili doesn't matter to me, because I believe his action was intentional -- maybe not the result. Let's not forget he struck him in the face ... anywhere else, and it probably doesn't become an issue.

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ArtMonkDrillz

I agree with you. The first time I saw the video it was from the regular TV feed and I didn't see anything wrong with it, but then I saw the angle from above the backboard and to me it looked like Kobe swung his arm out on purpose. Since when has he followed through with his shots by throwing his arm out hard to the side? And if you don't think he threw his arm out pretty damn hard just take a look at Ginobili's face.
Kobe pouts like a spoiled brat when he doesn't think he's getting the ball enough, bitches to the refs as much as anyone in the league (which he seems to always get away with), and obviously he seems to take exception to being guarded tightly.

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saden1

The word dirty isn't reserved for players that play rough. There's "trying to sell a call" and then there is flopping. There have been countless of times when Manu fell to the ground when he wasn't even touched. One play that sticks in my mind happened exactly like the Kobe incident. Video replay showed he wasn't even touched yet he hit the deck in agony. Yep, he is a dirty mofo.

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GhettoDogAllStars

I think I might remember seeing that. I'm definitely not a fan of that crap. Perhaps they should try to penalize that type of play? It's probably not practical though, because it would be totally subjective and difficult to enforce properly. Maybe they could just review the games, and then penalize the player afterwards -- instead of during the game?

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dmek25

plain and simple, i hate both of them, but kobe was just trying to draw a foul. manu's face just happened to get in the way

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firstdown

I just hate basketball!