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Old 07-09-2007, 11:46 PM   #61
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Have you ever known Gibbs to not be diplomatic?
I would wager behind closed doors gibbs got pissed that Tony drove so wreckless. How can you blame a guy that got hit from behind. Watch the video again, it's not like Hamlin slammed on the breaks...if he did I would see you point. Stewart kept closing on him...closing on him...closing on him. He had more than ample time to pass him, or slow up...but he rammed him. I'm sorry buddy, but this is black and white evidence on the tv. It's not even 1% Hamlin's fault. It's 100% Stewart's fault. Even in the real world, if you hit someone from behind, it's YOUR FAULT...no questions asked.
I asked NASCAR and some guys from JGR about it this morning and basically was told that they know when "Tony is just being Tony."

They said TS was emotional and frustrated and that they would just move on. Everyone in that garage knows there was no malicious intent. Tony and Denny will work it out on their own (if they haven't already) and things will be fine
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look i dont watch a lot of racing. hardly any actually but i saw the highlights of this race and Denny totally slowed down in front of stewart. not even close to being stewarts fault at all!

YouTube - 2007 Pepsi 400: Hamlin/Stewart Crash
HAHAHA...so you were watching the southpark episodes instead of that little youtube section then? You must have, because it clearly shows Stewart getting closer and closer and closer and closer to hamlin, and instead of slowing down or passing...he rammed him. 110% Stewarts fault...anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Stewart fan...open and shut case here boys.
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HAHAHA...so you were watching the southpark episodes instead of that little youtube section then? You must have, because it clearly shows Stewart getting closer and closer and closer and closer to hamlin, and instead of slowing down or passing...he rammed him. 110% Stewarts fault...anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Stewart fan...open and shut case here boys.
Now I'm not saying this is the case here. But as a NASCAR fun you should know that sometimes a bump is a good thing. Just keep that in mind when watching race's in general
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I asked NASCAR and some guys from JGR about it this morning and basically was told that they know when "Tony is just being Tony."

They said TS was emotional and frustrated and that they would just move on. Everyone in that garage knows there was no malicious intent. Tony and Denny will work it out on their own (if they haven't already) and things will be fine
Hell, I don't think there was malicious intent...just Stewart not paying attention, or not being talented enough to see what was in front of him and react to it (which he had more than ample amount of time to do).
It's just a shame that someone as classless as Stewart works for someone with as much class as Gibbs.
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Now I'm not saying this is the case here. But as a NASCAR fun you should know that sometimes a bump is a good thing. Just keep that in mind when watching race's in general

I'll give you that. But it was a very, very hard bump, and it was at the apex of the corner. Even 10 year old dirt track drivers know not to do that. Even if that was on a straight away it would have still not been good.
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Hell, I don't think there was malicious intent...just Stewart not paying attention, or not being talented enough to see what was in front of him and react to it (which he had more than ample amount of time to do).
It's just a shame that someone as classless as Stewart works for someone with as much class as Gibbs.
Don't confuse being emotional after a wreck with being classless.
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Don't confuse being emotional after a wreck with being classless.
I think they are one in the same when it's your own teammate. He should have taken the high road on the track and off of it.
If (let's say) Randel El was to go on TV and publicly say Campbell sucked, we'd all call for his head. But for some reason, Stewart calls out his teammate and not much has been said about it.
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I think they are one in the same when it's your own teammate. He should have taken the high road on the track and off of it.
If (let's say) Randel El was to go on TV and publicly say Campbell sucked, we'd all call for his head. But for some reason, Stewart calls out his teammate and not much has been said about it.
Not much has been said about it? Everyone is pissing all over him.

All I can tell you is Stewart is a great guy 95% of the time. Maybe next time I'll take a camera and a mic so you can hear some of the things guys like Hamlin say when the cameras not rolling.

Anyway, I don't think we'll ever come to an agreement on this. But that's cool. Debate is healthy
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Not much has been said about it? Everyone is pissing all over him.
I wasn't referring to here.

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All I can tell you is Stewart is a great guy 95% of the time. Maybe next time I'll take a camera and a mic so you can hear some of the things guys like Hamlin say when the cameras not rolling.
I honestly believe you. Like I said, it's not about him the person. Even great guys skrew up. You know what's funny...if it was me, I wouldn't have called out my teammate first of all, but if I did, I would publicly apologize for calling him out AND wrecking him, even if I didn't believe it, cause that's what teammates do! They cover each other.

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Anyway, I don't think we'll ever come to an agreement on this. But that's cool. Debate is healthy
You're right. I think he's wreckless, and you don't. Fundamental differences...but it's fun none the less!
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:10 AM   #70
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Re: JGR: Stewart Wrecks #11 Denny Hamlin

You guys see what Jsarno and I are doing here? We're arguing our cases like adults. Granted it's not the most in-depth argument but we're doing it like grown people.

There's no name calling. No bitching and crying. Pretty wild isn't it?
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You guys see what Jsarno and I are doing here? We're arguing our cases like adults. Granted it's not the most in-depth argument but we're doing it like grown people.

There's no name calling. No bitching and crying. Pretty wild isn't it?
I guess you just need a bunch more members like me

Maybe I should be a mod. hmmmmm.
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I guess you just need a bunch more members like me

Maybe I should be a mod. hmmmmm.
Hahahahaha
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HAHA, you laughed just a little too hard at that.
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HAHAHA...so you were watching the southpark episodes instead of that little youtube section then? You must have, because it clearly shows Stewart getting closer and closer and closer and closer to hamlin, and instead of slowing down or passing...he rammed him. 110% Stewarts fault...anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Stewart fan...open and shut case here boys.
Yea I guess your right. Stewart should have slowed down so Kevin Harvick could get into the back of him. And after Stewart got wrecked and was out of the race. He should have gone to the pits and told the media that he was just protecting his teammate Denny,who for some reason lost the pace through the turn and couldn’t keep up. That would have made him a great teammate and a great driver as well right?:thumb:
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Yea I guess your right. Stewart should have slowed down so Kevin Harvick could get onto the back of him. And after Stewart got wrecked and was out of the race. He should have gone to the pits and told the media that he was just protecting his team mate Denny who for some reason lost the pace through the turn and couldn’t keep up. That would have made him a great teammate and a great driver as well right?:thumb:
You're twisting everything...how freakin hard would it have been to PASS him? They do it at EVERY RACE...passing is a part of the sport...but I guess Tony is too good to leave his line. HAHAHA. 100% tony's fault. No other way of looking at this.
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