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Old 07-26-2007, 10:49 PM   #31
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Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record?

Baseball is so 1956....
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:58 PM   #32
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Re: Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record?

Who is embracing Bonds??

I think most people think he's a prick and the record will loose some luster with him holding it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:59 PM   #33
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I have to disagree with you here. There was a lot of talk and upset people when he was voted as an all pro. People just have more faith that it was indeed an accident with him, and he publicly came out and apologized, something Bonds has no intentions of doing. That tends to soften people...also, Merriman didn't get the all time sack record, or the all time single season sack record, or any record for that matter.
It blew over pretty damn quick. Other than Jason Taylor I really don't recall anyone making a big stink over it.

Steroids are much more accepted when it comes to football vs. baseball.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:25 PM   #34
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I support Bonds, I hope he runs that record sky high so that no one will even come close to it...

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Old 07-26-2007, 11:32 PM   #35
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It blew over pretty damn quick. Other than Jason Taylor I really don't recall anyone making a big stink over it.

Steroids are much more accepted when it comes to football vs. baseball.
I believe that it is because the steroid policies were not as strict in baseball for a very long time. Either that or use was getting overlooked. In the NFL steroid use has been closely observed. The federal government had to get involved in MLB's business, while Paul Tagliabue was able to keep the fed out of NFL business for the most part. This was due to the fact that the NFL had always handled illegal use of steroids with swift and severe punishment as opposed to MLB.

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It blew over pretty damn quick. Other than Jason Taylor I really don't recall anyone making a big stink over it.

Steroids are much more accepted when it comes to football vs. baseball.
It's not so much about steroid use as it is about records. Baseball has long been about numbers. Everyone knows 56 game hit streak, 755 homeruns, 511 wins, 4,1256 hits, etc.

You may know that Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher, or Jerry Rice has the most receptions all time but off the top of your head do you know the numbers? That's what separates baseball. People make a big deal not because of the steroids so much as numbers that mean something to them suddenly are irrelevant
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Who is embracing Bonds??

I think most people think he's a prick and the record will loose some luster with him holding it.
The media, but most importantly, all those nuts in SF that are giving him standing O's every time he steps to the plate.
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It's not so much about steroid use as it is about records. Baseball has long been about numbers. Everyone knows 56 game hit streak, 755 homeruns, 511 wins, 4,1256 hits, etc.

You may know that Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher, or Jerry Rice has the most receptions all time but off the top of your head do you know the numbers? That's what separates baseball. People make a big deal not because of the steroids so much as numbers that mean something to them suddenly are irrelevant
Beleive it or not, you said that perfectly.
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The media, but most importantly, all those nuts in SF that are giving him standing O's every time he steps to the plate.
And me...
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Beleive it or not, you said that perfectly.
Um...thanks I guess
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The media, but most importantly, all those nuts in SF that are giving him standing O's every time he steps to the plate.
The media? Really?
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It's not so much about steroid use as it is about records. Baseball has long been about numbers. Everyone knows 56 game hit streak, 755 homeruns, 511 wins, 4,1256 hits, etc.

You may know that Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher, or Jerry Rice has the most receptions all time but off the top of your head do you know the numbers? That's what separates baseball. People make a big deal not because of the steroids so much as numbers that mean something to them suddenly are irrelevant
What made these numbers so important? Was it something like a family heirloom that was passed down from generation to generation or is it something else. I do not know baseball so I didn't know the numbers until you just rattled them off. Ironically I do not know the numbers for football either.
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What made these numbers so important? Was it something like a family heirloom that was passed down from generation to generation or is it something else. I do not know baseball so I didn't know the numbers until you just rattled them off. Ironically I do not know the numbers for football either.
It's just the way the sport has always been, with stats and numbers being so dominant
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The media, but most importantly, all those nuts in SF that are giving him standing O's every time he steps to the plate.
We must be reading and listening to different stuff because I haven't heard anyone in the media say anything positive about Bonds since before Game of Shadows.
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We must be reading and listening to different stuff because I haven't heard anyone in the media say anything positive about Bonds since before Game of Shadows.
Yeah, I don't get it either.
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