MLB 2012 (random postings/events)

SmootSmack · 06-28-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Seemed like a whole lot of nothing; if anything the fan was in the wrong.

Agreed. A whole lotta nothing...but he should walk away because fans can be very stupid and often look to start trouble

NC_Skins · 06-28-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Seemed like a whole lot of nothing; if anything the fan was in the wrong.

The author points this out.

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I will grant him that the contact itself was gentle and obviously caused no injury to the fan involved. I've even heard it described as more of a soft slap. So yes, it certainly could have been a much uglier situation all things considered, but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent.

Had the fan reached over the wall to disrupt the play, you might be able to find some justification in Morgan's actions. Had the fan clearly grabbed Morgan, yes, gain separation by any means necessary. But Morgan knew where he was. He even understands what the fan was doing.

SmootSmack · 06-28-2012, 03:14 PM

Morgan was trying to make a play on the ball. He wasn't headed for the stands purposely looking to get into it with this guy

NC_Skins · 06-28-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Morgan was trying to make a play on the ball. He wasn't headed for the stands purposely looking to get into it with this guy

I don't think the author insinuated that. (nor I)

mooby · 06-28-2012, 03:45 PM

Yeah that's weak. You're trying to crucify a guy for trying to get an out for his team? If I was that fan I'dve let Morgan catch the ball, then hope he's nice enough to toss it to me (which most players do in those kinds of situations). You're acting like he was in the wrong for trying to do his job.

SmootSmack · 06-28-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I don't think the author insinuated that. (nor I)

"but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent."

To me that implies a belief that Morgan intended to make contact with the fan, not just incidental contact while trying to make a play on a ball

NC_Skins · 06-28-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Yeah that's weak. You're trying to crucify a guy for trying to get an out for his team? If I was that fan I'dve let Morgan catch the ball, then hope he's nice enough to toss it to me (which most players do in those kinds of situations). You're acting like he was in the wrong for trying to do his job.

Well, considering this was a road game, I doubt that you would have given a visiting team a opportunity to make a out on your team. That said, I agree with the author of the article and he's 100% right.

NC_Skins · 06-28-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

"but the problem for Morgan is that he made completely unnecessary contact with a paying customer that was well within his rights as a fan. And he did so with pretty clear intent."

To me that implies a belief that Morgan intended to make contact with the fan, not just incidental contact while trying to make a play on a ball

I'm quite positive he's reflecting on that slight shove, not the actual contact from trying to catch the ball. The first contact I'm quite positive was incidental, the second not so much. That is the point he's trying to make. No matter how small it seemed, (and he notes it was indeed small) it shouldn't have been made period.

SmootSmack · 06-28-2012, 03:53 PM

Much ado about nothing in my opinion. I disagree with the author and he's 100% wrong

mooby · 06-28-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Well, considering this was a road game, I doubt that you would have given a visiting team a opportunity to make a out on your team. That said, I agree with the author of the article and he's 100% right.

No, I doubt I would have tried to interfere with a player trying to do his job period. Opposing team or not. I'm there to spectate. Fans should not get in the way of players trying to do their job.

NC_Skins · 06-28-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

No, I doubt I would have tried to interfere with a player trying to do his job period. Opposing team or not. I'm there to spectate. Fans should not get in the way of players trying to do their job.

Most the time the fans aren't trying to "interfere" with the player. They are just trying to catch the ball, just like the player is. Leaning over the wall grabbing at balls is probably something I wouldn't do though. I would however give the home team a chance to make a out if he could. That's part of the game though.

That out could be crucial.

Ask Steve Bartman.

Monkeydad · 06-29-2012, 10:54 AM

Yee haw...watching the Yankees/White Sox game last night with my wife. She's a Yanks fan, I'm a ChiSox fan.

Bottom of 8th, Tex hit a HR to give the Yankees a 3-1 head going into the 9th.

9th Inning, 3-run, GW homer from Viciedo for a White Sox win. They REALLY miss Mariano.

That was fun.

mooby · 06-29-2012, 11:54 AM

I know about the Bartman incident. If it were me sitting that close to the wall though, I would try to be aware of foul balls headed my way so if a player gets close enough to catch one, he would have the space needed to do his job. I get that the fan was preoccupied trying to catch a foul ball, but I don't fault Morgan for getting annoyed that the fan got in his way.

NC_Skins · 07-09-2012, 12:41 PM

These guys hauled ass....lol

Texas Thunder: Lightning strike sends Rangers and Twins scurrying for safety | Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports

Can't blame them.

Chico23231 · 07-09-2012, 08:11 PM

the baseball allstar game is a the best. Home Run derby effing rocks...now if we could only get rid of Berman....

06-28-2012, 03:14 PM	#93
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) Morgan was trying to make a play on the ball. He wasn't headed for the stands purposely looking to get into it with this guy __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-28-2012, 03:45 PM	#95
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) Yeah that's weak. You're trying to crucify a guy for trying to get an out for his team? If I was that fan I'dve let Morgan catch the ball, then hope he's nice enough to toss it to me (which most players do in those kinds of situations). You're acting like he was in the wrong for trying to do his job.

06-28-2012, 03:53 PM	#99
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) Much ado about nothing in my opinion. I disagree with the author and he's 100% wrong __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-29-2012, 10:54 AM	#102
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,884	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) Yee haw...watching the Yankees/White Sox game last night with my wife. She's a Yanks fan, I'm a ChiSox fan. Bottom of 8th, Tex hit a HR to give the Yankees a 3-1 head going into the 9th. 9th Inning, 3-run, GW homer from Viciedo for a White Sox win. They REALLY miss Mariano. That was fun. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

06-29-2012, 11:54 AM	#103
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) I know about the Bartman incident. If it were me sitting that close to the wall though, I would try to be aware of foul balls headed my way so if a player gets close enough to catch one, he would have the space needed to do his job. I get that the fan was preoccupied trying to catch a foul ball, but I don't fault Morgan for getting annoyed that the fan got in his way.

07-09-2012, 12:41 PM	#104
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,284	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) These guys hauled ass....lol Texas Thunder: Lightning strike sends Rangers and Twins scurrying for safety \| Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports Can't blame them. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

07-09-2012, 08:11 PM	#105
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,789	Re: MLB 2012 (random postings/events) the baseball allstar game is a the best. Home Run derby effing rocks...now if we could only get rid of Berman.... __________________ Ready for the Draft.

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