2012 NBA Playoffs

SmootSmack · 06-06-2012, 11:02 AM

I know the popular thing to do is blast LeBron...but it's time to start holding Wade more accountable (and I like Wade).

NC_Skins · 06-06-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know the popular thing to do is blast LeBron...but it's time to start holding Wade more accountable (and I like Wade).

Wade has a ring and a Championship MVP trophy from that year. He won the title with less talent. Also, LeBron is the better player (as noted by his MVP trophies) so he's going to shoulder more of the blame, especially considering how his time ended in with Cleveland with him tanking that game 5 against Boston.

That said, I agree, Wade has to play (shoot) better as well, but I think what really kills them is the quality of players surrounding them. They have all that money tied up into 3 players, it's killed any type of chances of getting quality help on that team.

Chico23231 · 06-06-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know the popular thing to do is blast LeBron...but it's time to start holding Wade more accountable (and I like Wade).

I really dont think either are playing bad, but criticism comes along with job. Their supporting cast is weak, and Chris Bosh is vastly over rated. They need a better PG.

But to me their biggest problem is their attitude and play when facing adversity. Its a reflection of leadership on the team by Bosh, Wade, Lebron and their coaching staff. They look lost and frankly like little bitches when they face a pivotal points in the game.

SmootSmack · 06-06-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I really dont think either are playing bad, but criticism comes along with job. Their supporting cast is weak, and Chris Bosh is vastly over rated. They need a better PG.

But to me their biggest problem is their attitude and play when facing adversity. Its a reflection of leadership on the team by Bosh, Wade, Lebron and their coaching staff. They look lost and frankly like little bitches when they face a pivotal points in the game.

Wade's post game glasses with no lens look was kind of emblematic of their problems.

Chico23231 · 06-06-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wade's post game glasses with no lens look was kind of emblematic of their problems.

i think its leaguewide, thats one of my problems with the NBA these days, the others ive notice: teambuilding ie:Amare Stoudamire's comment the day after he season ends "how he love to see Steve Nash on the Knicks. NY loves Steve Nash" and the other problem: game strategy built around taking Charges on the defensive end. Its become laughable how lame this is, when you see a player driving to the hoop someone slides overs and raises their hands...i mean come on, go for the ball. The flopping and the refs posing to make the call to build some sort suspense "oh is it gonna be a block or a charge"....yeah so ****ing exciting. I mean the influence of Duke basketball is amazing, effing Coach K.

GMScud · 06-06-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wade's post game glasses with no lens look was kind of emblematic of their problems.

Lol no doubt. They have no heart. Every 50/50 ball went to Boston. Not hustling back on D repeatedly in such an important game? Head scratching...

And what the heck is Spoelstra thinking leaving Bosh on the bench?? Not fair? Huh? Especially with KG eating them for lunch?

Miami has a plethora of problems, and they're all above the shoulders IMO.

itvnetop · 06-06-2012, 06:54 PM

Talent's not the problem, with or without a perceived supporting cast. If you've got the best player in the game, an arguably top 5 player and a top 15 (Bosh is not overrated... I'd venture to say he's been consistent after a rocky start a few years ago when figuring how how to fit), the collection is way more than enough to get it done. Haslem had 17 boards last night, Chalmers knows how to knock down a 3 and Battier is the glue guy.

Like others have said, the chemistry is off. Defense was their bread and butter during the season, but they're no longer communicating in the fourth. Their offense becomes pass Wade/Lebron the ball when there's 7 seconds left on the shot clock and let's play ISO. It's like the lights seem to diminish their will in crunch time.

If they manage to pull it together in Boston, they can still get to the Finals. LeBron is still the best all around player on the planet. (I do think Durantula has taken the crown as most clutch).

DynamiteRave · 06-06-2012, 09:54 PM

Here's hoping the Heat choke and Lebron is ring-less another year. I think it'd be hilarious if he went his entire career and never won a championship. Unfortunately, I feel like its all just a matter of time before the Heat take it all. But I still feel like Lebron is the NBA version of Romo; constantly choking under pressure.

skinsfaninok · 06-06-2012, 10:33 PM

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Here's hoping the Heat choke and Lebron is ring-less another year. I think it'd be hilarious if he went his entire career and never won a championship. Unfortunately, I feel like its all just a matter of time before the Heat take it all. But I still feel like Lebron is the NBA version of Romo; constantly choking under pressure.

James is the best player in basketball, and I honestly don't know what more he can do? 30 Ppg 12 rebounds and 8 asst a night! That being said I lost mad respect for him with his whole decision shit so I'm going for Boston as well.

DynamiteRave · 06-06-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

James is the best player in basketball, and I honestly don't know what more he can do? 30 Ppg 12 rebounds and 8 asst a night! That being said I lost mad respect for him with his whole decision shit so I'm going for Boston as well.

I was a huge fan of Lebron's up until then. But I'm hoping the Celtics or OKC wins.

itvnetop · 06-06-2012, 11:17 PM

Interesting read

itvnetop · 06-06-2012, 11:33 PM

OKC looks unstoppable. They've just dispatched the past 3 WC champs in one playoff run. This looks to be a dynasty (assuming they can re-sign both Harden and Ibaka).

skinsfaninok · 06-06-2012, 11:48 PM

THUNDER UP!!!!!!! Time for the finals cant wait!

mredskins · 06-07-2012, 08:44 AM

OKC vs BOS would be a good matchup with IMO OKC coming out on top.

I just have a sinking feeling that the BOS/MIA series is going to end like the 2010 finals for the C's.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

James is the best player in basketball, and I honestly don't know what more he can do? 30 Ppg 12 rebounds and 8 asst a night! That being said I lost mad respect for him with his whole decision shit so I'm going for Boston as well.

It wasn't the best decision (no pun intended), but it doesn't really change my opinion of him. He's a good person and a great player

06-06-2012, 11:02 AM	#46
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs I know the popular thing to do is blast LeBron...but it's time to start holding Wade more accountable (and I like Wade). __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-06-2012, 06:54 PM	#52
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 36 Posts: 2,706	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs Talent's not the problem, with or without a perceived supporting cast. If you've got the best player in the game, an arguably top 5 player and a top 15 (Bosh is not overrated... I'd venture to say he's been consistent after a rocky start a few years ago when figuring how how to fit), the collection is way more than enough to get it done. Haslem had 17 boards last night, Chalmers knows how to knock down a 3 and Battier is the glue guy. Like others have said, the chemistry is off. Defense was their bread and butter during the season, but they're no longer communicating in the fourth. Their offense becomes pass Wade/Lebron the ball when there's 7 seconds left on the shot clock and let's play ISO. It's like the lights seem to diminish their will in crunch time. If they manage to pull it together in Boston, they can still get to the Finals. LeBron is still the best all around player on the planet. (I do think Durantula has taken the crown as most clutch). __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

06-06-2012, 09:54 PM	#53
DynamiteRave Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 26 Posts: 9,800	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs Here's hoping the Heat choke and Lebron is ring-less another year. I think it'd be hilarious if he went his entire career and never won a championship. Unfortunately, I feel like its all just a matter of time before the Heat take it all. But I still feel like Lebron is the NBA version of Romo; constantly choking under pressure. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

06-06-2012, 11:17 PM	#56
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 36 Posts: 2,706	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs Interesting read __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

06-06-2012, 11:33 PM	#57
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 36 Posts: 2,706	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs OKC looks unstoppable. They've just dispatched the past 3 WC champs in one playoff run. This looks to be a dynasty (assuming they can re-sign both Harden and Ibaka). __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather Last edited by itvnetop; 06-06-2012 at 11:43 PM.

06-06-2012, 11:48 PM	#58
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,981	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs THUNDER UP!!!!!!! Time for the finals cant wait! __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

06-07-2012, 08:44 AM	#59
mredskins Franchise Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,944	Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs OKC vs BOS would be a good matchup with IMO OKC coming out on top. I just have a sinking feeling that the BOS/MIA series is going to end like the 2010 finals for the C's. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

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