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Old 06-15-2012, 09:45 AM   #76
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Re: 2012 NBA Playoffs

Want to preface this by saying i dont know anything about the NBA, or pro bball. However, The Thunder is (are?) my faviort team, although before the playoffs i maybe watched 1 of their games. After Maynor, Durant is my faviort player.

i thought this was a good read:

Kevin Durant: Passive aggressive superstar scoring machine - CBSSports.com


Mike and Mike this morning were (was?) talking about the thunder being 25-5 when Westbrook shoots more then Durant this season. And that Westbrook was 50% last night in the 4th quarter, i think simular to Durant.

I really like that its not all on Durant, like it often is with Kobe or was with Lebron in Clevland. Sure Durant is the best or second best player but he makes his team better by not doing everything but by facilitating everything.

The Thunder looked like a young team in game 1 and even younger in game 2. But i think that theres no big egos on the team and they all do what the coach says. I think the current setup with Westbook and Durant is fine. It would be nice if the Thunder could show some poise early in these games and start off faster but otherwise i think theyre playing good.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:52 AM   #77
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Go home with your weak sauce false stats, sh*t annoys me when people do that.
However, please note that:

superstitious facts > weak sauce false stats

At least in my opinion
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:56 AM   #78
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guy avgs a double double almost

Not even close.


The problem with Westbrook is he wants to be the "man." The guy who gets all the glory. To be honest, they would be better off finding a true PG who can distribute the ball and open the lane up, than go with a shoot first mentality at the PG. The last PG the NBA has that was a true facilitator and scorer was Isaiah Thomas and Magic Johnson(Nash to some extent). In some of their best years, they would average 21 points a game, while dishing out 10-13 assists per night. That's absolutely incredible.

A point guard needs to be able to get people involved into the game, and Westbrook simply isn't that guy. Chris Paul and Deron Williams 2007-2010 stats should exemplify what a incredible PGs should be. I think Chris Paul is about the closest we'll see to a Isaiah, Magic, or John Stockton, but he needs to get those assist numbers back up.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:24 AM   #79
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Russell Westbrook: 26 shots, 27 points. James Harden 11 shots, 21 points.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #80
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OKC's biggest problem
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:31 AM   #81
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This is a better read and more accurate to the true issue.

Westbrook's the problem for Thunder ... he just doesn't realize it - NBA - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Fantasy Advice

He was a major problem last year as well in the playoffs.


Edit: Another article.

Column: Do Thunder and Russell Westbrook have a problem? :InsideHoops

Notice him talking about the flow of the offense, and how Westbrooks many shots interrupt that flow. THIS is what being a PG is all about, not about scoring points, but about making the offense flow.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:45 PM   #82
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I agree he takes way to many shots but he's not some scrub that's getting carried by any means here guys
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:50 PM   #83
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Magic said at halftime that Westbrook's performance in the 1st half was one of the worst he had ever seen in the finals.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:18 PM   #84
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Russ for the reg season.

23 ppg. 5.5 asst 5 rebounds
46% shooting.

That's pretty damn good folks
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Again I agree with most of u that kd should no doubt take the last shot and more shots but he's came out and said he wants russ to shoot more some games
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:40 PM   #86
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Westbrook definitely needs to improve his shot selection a bit, but he's improved from last season. I think the last game was a relapse (although nothing as bad as last year's Memphis series).

In terms of point guards, I think the position is being redefined. While you've got traditional passers like Nash, Paul and Rondo, we're starting to see guys like Westbrook and Rose. While teams with less talent need pass first point guards, it's proven that one isn't necessarily needed to win on championship rosters. The Lakers started Derek Fisher for all those years they won rings.

If you've got an athletic 1 like Rose or Westbrook that can take it to the rack, as well as shoot, it will open up space for other shooters/slashers. Westbrook doesn't need to change his game in order for the Thunder to succeed... just shoot better shots (I read the Thunder have a better record when Westbrook shoots more than Durant, weirdly enough). OKC succeeds because everyone knows how to pass.
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Russ has quieted the haters tonight! 37 points and shooting great
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Russ has quieted the haters tonight! 37 points and shooting great
I'm afraid that if OKC doesn't win tonight, this series may be over.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:49 PM   #89
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I really thought OKC would take this series... the real reason they're struggling? Harden has completely disappeared during the Finals.

Gotta give it up to Miami- Lebron is the MVP far and away. All of these games are close, though... I don't know if OKC can match tonight's effort. If they do, they have a chance to bring it back home. But the Heat are going to go all out to close at home.
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Russ has quieted the haters tonight! 37 points and shooting great
Shot selection was better. He took it to the rack and shot that elbow jumper that works for him.

And I'm never one to really say the refs have any sort of impact on the result... but Westbrook should have had way more free throws than three attempts. He was put on his butt no less than 5 times driving to the hole.

But again, Harden's been MIA for the last three games.
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