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Old 04-12-2006, 03:37 PM   #16
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I second that. That's ONE of the reasons gas prices stay as high as they are. More need = higher prices. Simple formula.

Drive more fuel efficient cars, less gas is used, prices go down. That would be a start anyway. But I agree (to a point) to also send out an F...Us for ALWAYS wanting the beast SUV to drive one person around in.

And Matty, those are on my list right below girls who drive Jettas. That is girls at college who's daddies bought them enormous monsters of cars that they can hang their leis and and talk on cell phones causing accidents.

Hollaback girl. Woot woot.
SUVs represent an incremental increase in demand that is a pittance in comparison to the increasing oil demand from India and China. It's a drop in the bucket and is maybe responsible for moving gas prices from $2.58 to $2.59. SUVs are not the problem with oil prices.

But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.
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Old 04-12-2006, 03:39 PM   #17
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I hate chickenheads.
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SUVs represent an incremental increase in demand that is a pittance in comparison to the increasing oil demand from India and China. It's a drop in the bucket and is maybe responsible for moving gas prices from $2.58 to $2.59. SUVs are not the problem with oil prices.

But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.
Then tell the Indians and Chinese to stop driving SUVs. They're too short to drive them anyway.
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Old 04-12-2006, 03:44 PM   #19
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Then tell the Indians and Chinese to stop driving SUVs. They're too short to drive them anyway.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:46 PM   #20
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Let's look at it from another angle. Say you're a bread store owner, and another natural disaster has created a shift in supply and demand that will greatly affect the price of bread -- maybe it's wildfires across the wheat fields of the midwest.

As the bread store owner, you see that since the wildfires have consumed a great portion of available wheat, you have to take action. Even if you have just received a full shipment of bread at normal market prices, you know the next shipment will cost much more. Since you have to pay for overhead, pay your employees, pay the onslaught of federal and state taxes associated with doing business, plus a little for yourself (you're not doing this for free, right?) you know that if you charge the same amount for the bread that you did before the wildfires, you will not be able to afford the next shipment without going out of business. So what do you do? You have to increase the price of the bread that you've already got stocked on the shelf in anticipation of the rising cost of bread that is sure to ensue.

The same thing is happening with mom and pop gas stations, even franchises all over the country. The evil, cold-hearted "Big Oil" companies are often the target of scourn and ridicule, but in reality, it's all a part of supply and demand folks.
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Let's look at it from another angle. Say you're a bread store owner, and another natural disaster has created a shift in supply and demand that will greatly affect the price of bread -- maybe it's wildfires across the wheat fields of the midwest.

As the bread store owner, you see that since the wildfires have consumed a great portion of available wheat, you have to take action. Even if you have just received a full shipment of bread at normal market prices, you know the next shipment will cost much more. Since you have to pay for overhead, pay your employees, pay the onslaught of federal and state taxes associated with doing business, plus a little for yourself (you're not doing this for free, right?) you know that if you charge the same amount for the bread that you did before the wildfires, you will not be able to afford the next shipment without going out of business. So what do you do? You have to increase the price of the bread that you've already got stocked on the shelf in anticipation of the rising cost of bread that is sure to ensue.

The same thing is happening with mom and pop gas stations, even franchises all over the country. The evil, cold-hearted "Big Oil" companies are often the target of scourn and ridicule, but in reality, it's all a part of supply and demand folks.
This statement has alot of validity to it and is PART of the problem. Don't ever forget that most of the government leaders in this country are very wealthy and a majority of them are invested in either defense or oil companies.
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:11 PM   #22
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Gas jumped from $2.20 p/g to $2.80 p/g in three weeks here in the Seattle area! I hope the bastards die a slow painful death.
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:47 PM   #23
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Supply and demand is such an easy cop-out, we all know there are many layers to any issue and big oil is certainly no different. Is supply and demand a part of the big picture? Sure. Is it the end all explanation? No way.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:14 PM   #24
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Okay so DC v. MD v. VA; DC has the most expensive gas on average right now which is about $2.86. By the end of summer, how much do you all (or the media) estimate the prices?

It looks like they are definitely gonna get higher than they were post-Katrina.

But.. *crosses fingers*
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But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.
lol, first ATVs, now SUVs. You should come take a peek in my garage. It's filled with all kinds of stuff you don't like.

As far as gas prices go, I don't really mind them; and I drive 120 miles a day.
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i mind the gas prices and sorry for driving a tahoe ,but to blame the high gas prices on what vehicle you drive is stupid.if everyone owned a tauras gas would probably be about 5.00 a gallon so the big oil companies could substain their record profits.the problem is that there is not one person sitting in d.c. that has the balls to cap the price.it is done with milk,and other things so dont tell me it cant be done.politicians are very concernd with immigrants right now that i could give a rats ass about.please stick to the REAL issues
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:30 PM   #27
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F Gas Prices!

Although take into consideration that as high as the price of gas is right now, it's still very cheap when compared with any other fossil fuel. I think I read somewhere that gasoline, as a substance, is closer to the value of water then to any other fuel producing substance.
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:45 PM   #28
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97 Chrysler LHS, big car but awesome milage as I am averaging around 24.7 MPG.

But on days that I am late for work I usually end up getting about 19. It's amazing how much gas you use going from 65 mph to 80 mph.

Has anyone tried out the gas savers? Things like the Tornado fuel saver, K&N air filter, or any other kind of car modifications to get better mileage??

Gas in Iowa is 2.65 right now. There was a 20 cent jump since Sunday.
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97 Chrysler LHS, big car but awesome milage as I am averaging around 24.7 MPG.

But on days that I am late for work I usually end up getting about 19. It's amazing how much gas you use going from 65 mph to 80 mph.

Has anyone tried out the gas savers? Things like the Tornado fuel saver, K&N air filter, or any other kind of car modifications to get better mileage??

Gas in Iowa is 2.65 right now. There was a 20 cent jump since Sunday.
Tornado is crap. K&N filter won't do anything but elevate the level of SI in your oil.

The best thing you can do is make sure you run proper air pressure in your tires. Also, don't haul around fat people. They'll kill your mileage.
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:30 PM   #30
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Supply and demand is such an easy cop-out, we all know there are many layers to any issue and big oil is certainly no different. Is supply and demand a part of the big picture? Sure. Is it the end all explanation? No way.
Supply and Demand is definitely the all-encompassing argument and is the biggest driver. But it's important to look at what's driving the increases in demand. A big part of it is developing markets (China and India) ramping up their manufacturing and using more oil. On the supply side, supply is dropping because of conflicts in Iraq and tensions with Tehran. Here's where you can get political, and I'm not going to jump into the fray in a political argument, but Bush's excursion into Iraq is definitely not helping gas prices. Whether or not we're justified in being there, that's another story and again I'm not going there.

But Matty, those are the two biggest factors at play here. What else is it? Are you accusing big oil of price gouging? Because if so, I hope you have some numbers to back that up.
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