Don Imus

hooskins · 04-14-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm not totally sure (so I could be speaking out of my ass), but it seems like there is a generational gap with regard to Cosby. People 50 and older tend to agree with Cosby and people under 50 tend to think he is a jerk.

Why because he is a leader that is harsh on his own community too? I mean sometimes he might push it, but I think it is good that he makes blacks accountable too. There are two races in this issues not just whites. Both sides have work to do IMO.

RobH4413 · 04-14-2007, 02:37 PM

Don't know if anyone is familiar with "Soul Position" but they're a semi underground hip-hop duo (Blueprint and RJD2) from Columbus, Ohio that I've enjoyed for quite some time.

Groups like Soul Position give me hope for the hip-hop genre. They're great music with great lyrics. I was half paying attention doing some homework and I realized that the song "Hand-me-downs" really kind of applies to a lot of what's wrong with rap culture. Sorry if this is off topic, but I felt like with the latest nationwide debate that has stirred up, blueprint sheds a little clarity onto the situation.

Just thought I'd share the good words, and to anyone that is close minded to hip hop, check them out. (www.myspace.com/soulposition)

verse. 1 from (Hand-Me-Downs)

"Amidst The Positivity, I want to bring it back
But Rap now-a-days is by a bunch of ignorant cats
No young gifted and black
Just guns bitches and crack
I react by turning off BET and Sambo's telling me what blackness is supposed to be
Used to give us world news now it's all videos, replaced Tavis Smiley with reality shows

If you let the TV define what black is
you think ice and violence is all we think that matters
I guess this is what happens when rappers look up to thugs
And kids look up to rappers

To some of y'all if I don't talk about the gat enough
Or sell crack enough
I ain't black enough
But I rather be a pro at being myself
Than be an idiot trying to be somebody else, what"

vs. 2

" I'm at the bus stop with my bike
Been there for awhile
Mom's taught me how to catch this route when I was a child
-Another kid walks up freakin a black and mild
Fifteen same age, I learn shits wild
An older lady walks up greets us with a smile
Asks how we both doing and sits down
She knows what's it's like to grow up in the south
Civil Rights when the white's was hosing us down
I started thinking to myself that even though the time's were tougher
They still took timeout to speak to one another
But look at us, me and this young brother
Acting to proud to break down and speak to each other
So inside I felt ashamed
Not sure of how to but I wanna change
And as long as I'm alive than the fact remains
That it's never too late for us to break the chains"

wolfeskins · 04-14-2007, 04:53 PM

thats a pretty good song, i like it.

saden1 · 04-15-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I dont think Sharpton and Jackson are the only leaders, but they are a few and Sharpton especially who legitimately feel they are the leaders of the black community.

Who do you feel is currently a good leader for the black community?

I don't feel there has to be a national figure. I think a lot of people in local communities are doing good things and they are the ones that really matter. There are a lot of good people in the NAACP who do good work. Real ministers in church do good work.

What the black community doesn't need is a loud mouth polarizing figure but we don't get to choose who appears on TV, the media does.

12thMan · 04-16-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

I don't feel there has to be a national figure. I think a lot of people in local communities are doing good things and they are the ones that really matter. There are a lot of good people in the NAACP who do good work. Real ministers in church do good work.

What the black community doesn't need is a loud mouth polarizing figure but we don't get to choose who appears on TV, the media does.

I followed your last couple of posts on black leadership or lack thereof, and I couldn't agree more.

I think it's unfortunate that many think Sharpton and Jackson are the face and voice of the black community. It just so happens that the media finds a level of 'comfort' and familiarity with these two.

I don't think there is currently a clear-cut African-American voice or face, so to speak, for a few reasons. There are African-Americans in Congress and the Senate, but they represent a larger base than just blacks, so they have walk a fine line in what they say and "who they represent". So there's a political thread that runs through their motivation; Neither Sharpton nor Jackson hold a political office.

Another thing to consider is that the black community is more diverse, more educated, and in many ways more successful than, let's say, 30 years ago. So when one says "the black community", exactly what segment of the black community are they speaking to? It's not clear cut as it was during the 60s. And that's why Imus' comments and the people that have responded and called for his resignation is more complicated than just 'racist' comments.

Certainly blacks still face social ills, but they're not the same Civil Rights issues as we know them. And this is why any media attention that Sharpton and Jackson constantly get can be so damaging. They are by and large still considered and perceived to be Civil Rights activists, and whenever they speak on the behalf of blacks, it's seen as some type of injustice that's linked to and remind people of the the struggle of the 60s.

Their voices are a constant reminder of how things "used to be", where "we aren't". They really don't speak to the future or progress.

djnemo65 · 04-16-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Don't know if anyone is familiar with "Soul Position" but they're a semi underground hip-hop duo (Blueprint and RJD2) from Columbus, Ohio that I've enjoyed for quite some time.

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Yes yes and yes!

SmootSmack · 04-16-2007, 06:09 PM

That was the last straw 100%, you have a new username-0% New Posts. You've got obvious issues that we don't have the time nor desire to deal with on this board.

Congratulations, you will be TheMalcolmConnection's first official ban.

ArtMonkDrillz · 04-16-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That was the last straw 100%, you have a new username-0% New Posts. You've got obvious issues that we don't have the time nor desire to deal with on this board.

Congratulations, you will be TheMalcolmConnection's first official ban.

I always knew the mods were actually vampires. TMC isn't official until he takes his first victim.

I bet you also wear eyeliner and black fishnets.

SmootSmack · 04-16-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I always knew the mods were actually vampires. TMC isn't official until he takes his first victim.

I bet you also wear eyeliner and black fishnets.

Only on Elvira night! That's when we all gather round SGG's house and play charades, only reenacting scenes from Mistress of the Dark movies

That sig is awesome by the way

ArtMonkDrillz · 04-16-2007, 06:40 PM

Thank yuns

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-16-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

They out of line huh? well like I said, I love to hear someone say those exact words, to a person of color face, oh yeah asshole i didnt know this was a sppeelling contest, I dont put up wut noone racism, ( did I spell that right) and of course you understand why any black person would be mad right, cause you suppor the cause!!!!!! CLEAR ENOUGH, and when you put up with that kind of shit most of your life, you get tired of it.......OF COURSE YOU UNDERSTAND......RIGHT BROTHER, screw you!

To quote my new favorite saying that I stole from AMD...

...you just got F'ed in the A.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-16-2007, 08:18 PM

I did it. I feel stronger, faster than before.

Looks like I gave 100% PURE WHOOP ASS a taste of his own medicine. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!

jsarno · 04-16-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

...you just got F'ed in the A.

OK, I've stayed away from this thread for the simple fact that this is an extremely sensitive subject, but I have got to say, just browsing, that comment made me laugh out loud!!!!

jsarno · 04-16-2007, 11:48 PM

nappy - Definitions from Dictionary.com

This post has been edited by myself (jsarno) due to more knowledge on this subject. Thank you.

SmootSmack · 04-16-2007, 11:55 PM

Well, jsarno, it is generally considered a derogatory term toward the African-American community and adding "ho" was offensive to all the women on the team. Imus and his executive producer have both made several racially and ethnically offensive comments in the past (which I won't repeat here), so this wasn't a first time offense. And finally, the ultimate straw was the sponsors pulling out (green is the most important color, at least at CBS it is. I know, I used to work there)

I don't think firing him solves anything per se, but this wasn't necessarily a one time incident for him or his EP either.

04-14-2007, 02:37 PM	#152
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,381	Re: Don Imus Don't know if anyone is familiar with "Soul Position" but they're a semi underground hip-hop duo (Blueprint and RJD2) from Columbus, Ohio that I've enjoyed for quite some time. Groups like Soul Position give me hope for the hip-hop genre. They're great music with great lyrics. I was half paying attention doing some homework and I realized that the song "Hand-me-downs" really kind of applies to a lot of what's wrong with rap culture. Sorry if this is off topic, but I felt like with the latest nationwide debate that has stirred up, blueprint sheds a little clarity onto the situation. Just thought I'd share the good words, and to anyone that is close minded to hip hop, check them out. (www.myspace.com/soulposition) verse. 1 from (Hand-Me-Downs) "Amidst The Positivity, I want to bring it back But Rap now-a-days is by a bunch of ignorant cats No young gifted and black Just guns bitches and crack I react by turning off BET and Sambo's telling me what blackness is supposed to be Used to give us world news now it's all videos, replaced Tavis Smiley with reality shows If you let the TV define what black is you think ice and violence is all we think that matters I guess this is what happens when rappers look up to thugs And kids look up to rappers To some of y'all if I don't talk about the gat enough Or sell crack enough I ain't black enough But I rather be a pro at being myself Than be an idiot trying to be somebody else, what" vs. 2 " I'm at the bus stop with my bike Been there for awhile Mom's taught me how to catch this route when I was a child -Another kid walks up freakin a black and mild Fifteen same age, I learn shits wild An older lady walks up greets us with a smile Asks how we both doing and sits down She knows what's it's like to grow up in the south Civil Rights when the white's was hosing us down I started thinking to myself that even though the time's were tougher They still took timeout to speak to one another But look at us, me and this young brother Acting to proud to break down and speak to each other So inside I felt ashamed Not sure of how to but I wanna change And as long as I'm alive than the fact remains That it's never too late for us to break the chains" __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

04-14-2007, 04:53 PM	#153
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Don Imus thats a pretty good song, i like it. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

04-16-2007, 06:09 PM	#157
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,095	Re: Don Imus That was the last straw 100%, you have a new username-0% New Posts. You've got obvious issues that we don't have the time nor desire to deal with on this board. Congratulations, you will be TheMalcolmConnection's first official ban. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-16-2007, 06:40 PM	#160
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 30 Posts: 7,757	Re: Don Imus Thank yuns __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

04-16-2007, 08:18 PM	#162
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: Don Imus I did it. I feel stronger, faster than before. Looks like I gave 100% PURE WHOOP ASS a taste of his own medicine. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-16-2007, 11:48 PM	#164
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38 Posts: 9,534	Re: Don Imus nappy - Definitions from Dictionary.com This post has been edited by myself (jsarno) due to more knowledge on this subject. Thank you. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

04-16-2007, 11:55 PM	#165
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,095	Re: Don Imus Well, jsarno, it is generally considered a derogatory term toward the African-American community and adding "ho" was offensive to all the women on the team. Imus and his executive producer have both made several racially and ethnically offensive comments in the past (which I won't repeat here), so this wasn't a first time offense. And finally, the ultimate straw was the sponsors pulling out (green is the most important color, at least at CBS it is. I know, I used to work there) I don't think firing him solves anything per se, but this wasn't necessarily a one time incident for him or his EP either. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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