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Old 04-18-2007, 03:11 PM   #46
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I would think that more disclosure from medical records could help. Maybe if someone is admitted to counseling or is taking certain types of drugs, they aren't allowed to have one.
That's exactly what I feel should be done. The easiest solution for this is that anyone who seeks treatment for a mental condition either voluntarily or involuntarily would be subject to an evaluation for firearms as well. What I mean by that is if while in treatment, a doctor is alerted to a specific type of behavior he deems dangerous, then the doctor would be required to send a notice to NICS. It could be a temporary notice or a permanent one. The only way that person could get the alert taken off would be for them to have their doctor to contact NICS or by a court order. That way there is an alert in a national database for everyone else to see when they are running backgrounds.

The problem is the NRA and the privacy folks will jump all over this. They might agree that it's a good idea in part, but will make the argument that if we do it, then we will begin sliding down a slippery slope.
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I'm not sure if that is true or is that what the liberal media wants us to think. I'm not going to interview a cop who says its OK if I'm against guns.
Nope, no liberal media bias here. The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), the world’s oldest and largest membership organization of police executives, supported the Brady laws and regularly opposes liberalization of the states' concealed carry laws. But don't believe me, look em up on the internet. That the "experts" on crime oppose the liberalization of CC laws should be worth something.

Granted, the IACP is just one organization (with international dimensions), but I live in a Red State and, on the state and local level, all of the police here strongly oppose the liberalization of such laws.
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I, personally can put no credence in what the police believe to be true, or not. They have their agenda.
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I, personally can put no credence in what the police believe to be true, or not. They have their agenda.
What's their "agenda?"
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When you look at it, (so called) assault weapons are no different than any other firearm. They were branded with an Evil name, and the politico's convinced us they were bad. They do not do anything, any other semi-automatic firearm, does not do.
Except that they are convertable to auto fire. Yes, it takes some knowledge and is illegal BUT for those who desire to do so, it can be done AND it can't be done with standard rifles or semi-auto pistols.
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I, personally can put no credence in what the police believe to be true, or not. They have their agenda.
Yes - it's called attempting to stay alive while protecting the citizenry.
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:36 PM   #52
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Except that they are convertable to auto fire. Yes, it takes some knowledge and is illegal BUT for those who desire to do so, it can be done AND it can't be done with standard rifles or semi-auto pistols.
ALL semi-automatic weapons are convertible to auto fire.
Most, if not all are quite complicated to convert, and the parts are next to impossible to get, if not impossible. Oh, by the way, It's a Federal offense "to possess" them.
It's not what people generally think
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Well it looks like their agenda is to get more money coming to them from congerss and yes they want to get assult weapon bill back inforce. Did not have much time to read any more.

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It's not as though the mission is to get money for the sake of getting money....the money is simply a means to an end. Their end (aka agenda) is to promote police and public safety.
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Sorry, it looked like to me that the specific goals listed all had to do with getting more and better educated officers on the streets. I got no problem with that.
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Yes - it's called attempting to stay alive while protecting the citizenry.
It's a job. like any other. They would prefer to have it easier than more difficult. Like anybody else. I can understand why they would prefer nobody packin', rather than everybody.
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It's a job. like any other. They would prefer to have it easier than more difficult. Like anybody else. I can understand why they would prefer nobody packin', rather than everybody.
That would be nice if we could make their jobs easier. I don't think we should strive to keep them busy.
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Mostly, we are saddled with a justice system that has lost it's effectiveness, and not longer works. We do not need more laws. We need a system that works. Building more prisons is not working.......all that good
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ALL semi-automatic weapons are convertible to auto fire.
Most, if not all are quite complicated to convert, and the parts are next to impossible to get, if not impossible. Oh, by the way, It's a Federal offense "to possess" them.
It's not what people generally think
I agree that the conversion is difficult. I was unaware that a semi-auto pistols could, in fact, be converted into fully automatics.

Under the applicable law, what is defined as an "assault gun".
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That would be nice if we could make their jobs easier. I don't think we should strive to keep them busy.
I would prefer thay have it easier as well SGG. that won't happen until the justice system changes.
I doubt you'll find any cop that disagree's with that.
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It's a job. like any other. They would prefer to have it easier than more difficult. Like anybody else. I can understand why they would prefer nobody packin', rather than everybody.
No, it's not a job "like any other". I am not sure what your occupation is, but I guarrantee you that mine, those of my co-workers and the VAST majority of my friends and aquaintances does not require me to, on a regular basis, confront and/or restrain violent criminals. Further, generally speaking, body armor is NOT part of my normal business dress - even on business casual day.
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