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Old 04-18-2007, 03:51 PM   #61
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[quote=JoeRedskin;299177]I agree that the conversion is difficult. I was unaware that a semi-auto pistols could, in fact, be converted into fully automatics.
A friend of my dad's years ago did a home convert on a .45. WAY to wierd.
Mostly the Ak-47's SKS, and AR-15 are the most common that I know, to do the conversion. When you get done, not much remains of the original weapon.
It's class 3 dealer stuff, with Long........FEDERAL years if caught in any way participating in it. Not impossible, but very dicey. That's why (if you remember the California incident of a few years back) It's so rare to hear of actual Full Auto probs with the thugs
Ona more personal note, I had the oppurtunity to shoot a couple of legal M-16's, and Thompson .45, etc a couple years ago. It's major fun
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:56 PM   #62
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Ona more personal note, I had the oppurtunity to shoot a couple of legal M-16's, and Thompson .45, etc a couple years ago. It's major fun
I agree. I've fired M-16(A1)s and (A2)s and M-60s. But, I don't the fun of shooting them warrants their legalization.
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Mostly, we are saddled with a justice system that has lost it's effectiveness, and not longer works. We do not need more laws. We need a system that works. Building more prisons is not working.......all that good
I think the system is fine, it's just the jokers running the system is what has really failed us. The law can be wielded in the hands of those who iterpret it.

The prisons are becoming a business more and more by the day. The reasons for building today vs. twenty or thirty years ago are different. Today's prisons are being built with a definite return on investment in mind.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:11 PM   #64
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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;299186]I agree. I've fired M-16(A1)s and (A2)s and M-60s. But, I don't the fun of shooting them warrants their

That obviously was not the point
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I think the system is fine, it's just the jokers running the system is what has really failed us. The law can be wielded in the hands of those who iterpret it.

The prisons are becoming a business more and more by the day. The reasons for building today vs. twenty or thirty years ago are different. Today's prisons are being built with a definite return on investment in mind.
I agree.
If you have ever seen the Sheriff in NM or maybe AZ. He runs a "prison camp" in tents, in the desert. IT"S AWESOME! Naturally he is constantly afoul of the ACLU, and every human rights org's. I would be willing to bet he has much better results than other prisons. he has a program I can get endorse.
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I agree.
If you have ever seen the Sheriff in NM or maybe AZ. He runs a "prison camp" in tents, in the desert. IT"S AWESOME! Naturally he is constantly afoul of the ACLU, and every human rights org's. I would be willing to bet he has much better results than other prisons. he has a program I can get endorse.
I think I saw a show about that once... is that where he makes the inmates wear pink jumpsuits?
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:29 PM   #67
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I think I saw a show about that once... is that where he makes the inmates wear pink jumpsuits?
I think so.
But, no hot food. No caffeine drinks. no cold drinks, no AC. no luxories. At one point the Fed (under some BS law) said he had to give the prisoners access to some cable tv. he gave them "Disney". The guy is incredible. He made a statement in an Int a couple of years ago. "Our prison system has lost something. We do not want them coming back. We want them to remember THIS is a place that they do NOT want to visit ever again." It's not inhumane in any way. Just not plushy. It's the way our soldiers live when deployed
The biggest problem with this story is......it's the only one. he's considered a criminal by many. THAT'S a crime
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I think so.
But, no hot food. No caffeine drinks. no cold drinks, no AC. no luxories. At one point the Fed (under some BS law) said he had to give the prisoners access to some cable tv. he gave them "Disney". The guy is incredible. He made a statement in an Int a couple of years ago. "Our prison system has lost something. We do not want them coming back. We want them to remember THIS is a place that they do NOT want to visit ever again." It's not inhumane in any way. Just not plushy. It's the way our soldiers live when deployed
The biggest problem with this story is......it's the only one. he's considered a criminal by many. THAT'S a crime

CNN - Arizona criminals find jail too in-'tents' - July 27, 1999

A little old, but I think he's still there. While I was looking, it looks as if there may be a few more now
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CNN - Arizona criminals find jail too in-'tents' - July 27, 1999

A little old, but I think he's still there. While I was looking, it looks as if there may be a few more now

He also reads them bedtime stories on a closed circuit television channel complete with roaring fireplace and loyal german sheppard by his side.He is quite a character.
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That gives doctors alot of power.
Not really. They already have the power to commit you if they see fit and that's based on their observations only. You don't have to do anything violent to justify being committed. Many times people voluntarily commit themselves and once they are evaluated, a doctor can turn that into an involuntary commitment if they are concerned you may be a danger to yourself or others.
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Right. That's what I'm thinking is that basically a doctor can deem whether you are safe or not to have a gun. Sure, that might seem like a small step, but wouldn't that have stopped what happened at VT?
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The perfect person to have that kind of control is someone who has dedicated his/her life to healing others.
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I'm not sure if you're being facetious (I'm drinking now since it's my last night until the wedding TO drink), but if you're not, I would totally agree.

Why would it be so bad for gun dealers to have to submit a request with a doctor of some kind stating that person A wants to buy a gun. Say they the doctor says they can't and they're perfectly healthy mentally, is that REALLY an outrage? I'll take a hundred mentally healthy people not getting a gun rather than ONE psycho getting one.
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I'm 100% in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Owning a gun makes no sense in today's world.

Well, once again Schneed, we completely disagree. Though I have to give you credit -- at least you admit that the 2nd amendment must be repealled in order to achieve the goal of the total criminalization of owning firearms.

A philosophical question for you though: Do you believe you have the inherent individual right to defend yourself?
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I lean more towards Schneed's view even though I wouldn't want to see it totally repealed. I know that people say, "Well, they'd go find a gun anyway." Seriously, I think it would be a little worse before it got better but then after that, I think that people who even SEE someone with a gun, would consider them a threat. Sure, Nice Korean Guy comes into the store and buys a gun, then he goes nuts. I think if guns are made totally illegal, that makes them far more inaccessible than you'd think.
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