Let's impeach the president.

dmek25 · 06-20-2007, 04:24 PM

i don't think that ignore is the right term. more then once, Clinton could have had Bin Laden taken out, but at that time, no one knew( the public) of the threat he possessed. after 9-11, instead of focusing on Iraq, and Hussein, Bush could have made an historical imprint by taking him out, or by demanding Afghanistan hand him over. i don't think he ignored the threat. he just choose something, he thought, would be the easier of the 2. i guess he mis calculated

djnemo65 · 06-20-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I hope that a goverment which has a threat like IRan would have a rudimentary plan in place so if anything ever happened we would be prepared. Its the goverment that just ignores countries like Iran which would scare me.

Sorry if my post was unclear. This was a plan for a first strike, different than a contingency plan.

dblanch66 · 06-20-2007, 08:26 PM

All this being said, Bush is still an idiot. Worst president in American history and that is saying something. 911 happened on HIS watch. Starting a war and lying about the reason. Not having a clear plan and/or exit strategy. Scooter Libby scandal. Campain fixing. Piss poor judgement with government appointees. Katrina disaster. Gross misappropriation of national funds. Complete and utter incompetence with health care reform. Environmentally retarded. Highest gas prices in history and he has stock in.....lemme guess...OIL.
I've only listed 1/3 of his complete bafoonery. If it looks like a DUCK, walks like a DUCK, and quacks like a DUCK...it's a FUCKING DUCK!!!

70Chip · 06-20-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

All this being said, Bush is still an idiot. Worst president in American history and that is saying something. 911 happened on HIS watch. Starting a war and lying about the reason. Not having a clear plan and/or exit strategy. Scooter Libby scandal. Campain fixing. Piss poor judgement with government appointees. Katrina disaster. Gross misappropriation of national funds. Complete and utter incompetence with health care reform. Environmentally retarded. Highest gas prices in history and he has stock in.....lemme guess...OIL.
I've only listed 1/3 of his complete bafoonery. If it looks like a DUCK, walks like a DUCK, and quacks like a DUCK...it's a FUCKING DUCK!!!

You misspelled buffoonery.

jsarno · 06-20-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

All this being said, Bush is still an idiot. Worst president in American history and that is saying something.

The man might be the best president ever and we'll know just how good he was after he leaves office. You should be kissing his feet. We should ban the law about only 2 terms, cause Bush should remain president for life.

dblanch66 · 06-21-2007, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

The man might be the best president ever and we'll know just how good he was after he leaves office. You should be kissing his feet. We should ban the law about only 2 terms, cause Bush should remain president for life.

Gosh, you are so right. I have been soo wrong about him all this time. I'm converted. Now, if he could only complete a sentence, he most certainly will surpass Lincoln, Kennedy, Roosevelt and Washington!

dmek25 · 06-21-2007, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

The man might be the best president ever and we'll know just how good he was after he leaves office. You should be kissing his feet. We should ban the law about only 2 terms, cause Bush should remain president for life.

i hope this is sarcasm. bush will go down as one of the worst presidents the free world has ever had

dblanch66 · 06-21-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Campain fixing? Pleas explain. Katrina was the the governors mistake. Goverment appointess just because you do not like them that does not make them bad. I'm glade the goverment has not screwed up health care as it has every other program it has started. Please give us the link to show where he owns stock in oil, you can't because he does not own oil stock. It looks like you have been reading the bash Bush democratic hand book.

Can you translate this post into english...wait.....Is this George Bush?

dmek25 · 06-21-2007, 01:22 PM

the Bush family has many ties to oil. this is part of the reason the price gouging goes on right now with gas prices, and the white house remains quiet. the Bush family also has many ties to the Saudi royal family, which could do something about oil production. but again, they remain silent

FRPLG · 06-21-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

the Bush family has many ties to oil. this is part of the reason the price gouging goes on right now with gas prices, and the white house remains quiet. the Bush family also has many ties to the Saudi royal family, which could do something about oil production. but again, they remain silent

Why is everything that goes on a damn conspiracy? Who cares about anybody's ties to oil (ther are plenty of Dems with just as many ties by the way). Maybe, just fricking maybe, 99% of the people and media who complain about government inaction in this country don't have a damn clue about how the oil market works. Maybe, just damn maybe, the cost of oil has nothing to do with the Bush administration at all. The ideological idea that everything that goes wrong is the Bush administration's fault is patently ridiculous. Have they done things wrong? For sure. But don't blame everything on them. It is what makes the reasonable arguments sound so dumb. They get lost in the ideological rhetoric.

Someone tell me one thing that thye administration was supposed to do? Chirp chirp. By the way the Executive branch isn't repsonsible for regulation and legislation. The Legislative branch is and I don't hear them banging the drum for any type of oil market reform. No they might spout off every now and then but at the end of the day they know that the oil market is the way it is because we have to buy oil from the middle east which is a damn disaster and has been for 3k years. Then all of our refineries happen to be in hurricanes way. I am sure somehow that is Bush's fault too.

Hog1 · 06-21-2007, 02:07 PM

Bush should have had a Hurricane prevention program!
Hell, Clinton did! He had Monica..............(you can see it coming) She...sucked!

dmek25 · 06-21-2007, 02:07 PM

thank god I'm talking to someone that understands alot more then me. all i know is the government finds a way to cap milk prices, but yet gas goes unnoticed. it probably has nothing to do with the amount of money the Saudis pump into the U.S. economy. to me, hardly anything is a conspiracy. its just the facts. the pre bush years, everything that happened was all Bill Clinton's fault. its just the way politics roll. you want to be the big chief, you have to bear the responsibility, whether its right or wrong

Hog1 · 06-21-2007, 02:10 PM

If you believe anything you read about how "actual" gas prices are set, it has little or nothing to do with any administration.

SmootSmack · 06-21-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

thank god I'm talking to someone that understands alot more then me. all i know is the government finds a way to cap milk prices, but yet gas goes unnoticed.

Corn and milk: 1-2 inflation punch - Jun. 19, 2007

$3.35 for milk? It's better than price controls | Marion Chronicle Tribune - www.chronicle-tribune.com -

Beemnseven · 06-21-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

When Clinton did not take Sudan up on their offer for Bin Laden he had allready declaired a terror war on the US. Latter we had first tower attack, the Cole attack, and two US embassies attacked and nothing was done so yeas that is ignored him. Then 9/11 and we went after Bin Laden and the Taliban for a year prior to the Iraq war. You cannot say that we ignored him as we broke them up and they are no longer freely running around in Afghanisatn. Yes the Iraq war has taken some of the focuse off Afghanistan but our accomplishments there were still big. The one biggest thing is Bin is still alive but I still think that Bush has a hugh desire to get him before leaving office.

If getting Bin laden was as important to the neo-cons as they say, then why did it take a terrorist attack nine months after Bush took office to go after him?

06-20-2007, 04:24 PM	#211
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 56 Posts: 10,631	Re: Let's impeach the president. i don't think that ignore is the right term. more then once, Clinton could have had Bin Laden taken out, but at that time, no one knew( the public) of the threat he possessed. after 9-11, instead of focusing on Iraq, and Hussein, Bush could have made an historical imprint by taking him out, or by demanding Afghanistan hand him over. i don't think he ignored the threat. he just choose something, he thought, would be the easier of the 2. i guess he mis calculated __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-20-2007, 08:26 PM	#213
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 51 Posts: 1,176	Re: Let's impeach the president. All this being said, Bush is still an idiot. Worst president in American history and that is saying something. 911 happened on HIS watch. Starting a war and lying about the reason. Not having a clear plan and/or exit strategy. Scooter Libby scandal. Campain fixing. Piss poor judgement with government appointees. Katrina disaster. Gross misappropriation of national funds. Complete and utter incompetence with health care reform. Environmentally retarded. Highest gas prices in history and he has stock in.....lemme guess...OIL. I've only listed 1/3 of his complete bafoonery. If it looks like a DUCK, walks like a DUCK, and quacks like a DUCK...it's a FUCKING DUCK!!!

06-21-2007, 01:22 PM	#219
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 56 Posts: 10,631	Re: Let's impeach the president. the Bush family has many ties to oil. this is part of the reason the price gouging goes on right now with gas prices, and the white house remains quiet. the Bush family also has many ties to the Saudi royal family, which could do something about oil production. but again, they remain silent __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-21-2007, 02:07 PM	#221
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Let's impeach the president. Bush should have had a Hurricane prevention program! Hell, Clinton did! He had Monica..............(you can see it coming) She...sucked! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

06-21-2007, 02:07 PM	#222
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 56 Posts: 10,631	Re: Let's impeach the president. thank god I'm talking to someone that understands alot more then me. all i know is the government finds a way to cap milk prices, but yet gas goes unnoticed. it probably has nothing to do with the amount of money the Saudis pump into the U.S. economy. to me, hardly anything is a conspiracy. its just the facts. the pre bush years, everything that happened was all Bill Clinton's fault. its just the way politics roll. you want to be the big chief, you have to bear the responsibility, whether its right or wrong __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-21-2007, 02:10 PM	#223
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Let's impeach the president. If you believe anything you read about how "actual" gas prices are set, it has little or nothing to do with any administration. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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