Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Parking Lot


Let's impeach the president.

Parking Lot


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2007, 08:45 PM   #61
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,146
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmek25 View Post
there wasn't anything to prove the connection between the 2. he got what he wanted, Hussein. he just made it easier to sell to the American people. i would have looked at Geo. Bush totally different if he would have invaded Afghanistan, and captured Bin Laden. i think history would have, too
Didn't Clinton also make a link following the embassy attacks in Sudan (was it Sudan?) back in 1998? Then he went and bombed a hospital or something like that.

Saden, help me out here. Refresh my memory
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  

Advertisements
Old 05-29-2007, 08:46 PM   #62
MVP
 
dmek25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: lancaster,pa
Age: 53
Posts: 10,525
Re: Let's impeach the president.

smootsmack, politics is, and will always be, a shady affair. our government thinks either the public cant handle the truth. or would rather not hear it. these shady dealings go on in every presidency. some administrations are more inept in covering things up, and thats the biggest difference
__________________
"It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
courtesy of 53fan
dmek25 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 08:47 PM   #63
Most Interesting Man in the World
 
hooskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Age: 28
Posts: 8,606
Re: Let's impeach the president.

I predict 20 more posts until thread hell.
__________________
Vacancy
hooskins is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 08:53 PM   #64
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,146
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooskins View Post
I predict 20 more posts until thread hell.
You want I should make that happen? So would that be 20 including the one where it's locked and sent to thread hell?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 08:56 PM   #65
Most Interesting Man in the World
 
hooskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Age: 28
Posts: 8,606
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
You want I should make that happen? So would that be 20 including the one where it's locked and sent to thread hell?
Actually my original prediction of 20 would not include the final post. So 21, a good post count and a good age.
__________________
Vacancy
hooskins is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 08:59 PM   #66
Playmaker
 
skinsfan_nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Newport News,Virginia
Age: 50
Posts: 4,495
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Well lets see a Parking lot. Football Fans & Politics, hum...?

Sounds like a timebomb, tic, toc........I think it's getting near the end.
__________________
"There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68

THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
skinsfan_nn is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 09:01 PM   #67
Registered User
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 35
Posts: 10,069
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Didn't Clinton also make a link following the embassy attacks in Sudan (was it Sudan?) back in 1998? Then he went and bombed a hospital or something like that.

Saden, help me out here. Refresh my memory
1998 was the time when the inspectors were being kicked out of Iraq and Saddam was making noise. After the bombing of US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, Gen. Richard A. Clarke, then part of team Clinton's counter-terrorism staff, made some noise about Saddam offering Bin Laden asylum. Nothing came of Richard's comments and the enforcement of the Iraq no-fly-zone was stepped up after Saddam foolishly said he wouldn't respect the no-fly-zone.
saden1 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 09:32 PM   #68
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 44
Posts: 3,048
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Didn't Clinton also make a link following the embassy attacks in Sudan (was it Sudan?) back in 1998? Then he went and bombed a hospital or something like that.

Saden, help me out here. Refresh my memory
Ibuprophen factory. August, 1998. Same week or day he was deposed by Starr's lawyers, I think.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 10:11 PM   #69
The Starter
 
Redskin Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,420
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection View Post
This isn't going to last very long...
TMC... what's your definition of very long???
Redskin Rich is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 11:31 PM   #70
Playmaker
 
Redskins8588's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ridgway, PA
Age: 36
Posts: 2,519
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
You mean the US Attorneys that the President can fire anytime that he wants to and other presidents have done the same thing.
Yeah, you are right to a point. Everyother Presidents did fire US Attorneys, the difference here is that the other Presidents fired the US Attorneys shortly after they took office, not half to 3 quarters way through there administration. These US Attorneys were ok for the first 6 or 7 years but now all of a sudden for the last year or so they are fired? Tell me another President, that wasnt newly elected, that fired as many US Attorneys as Bush did. I have no problem with the firings if the Attorneys deserved to be fired, but the ones that got fired all are singing the same tune. They did not adhear to their politcal parties demands. Basicly they decided to up hold the CONSTIUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, rather than surrender to the demands of the Republican party.
__________________
"I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor
Redskins8588 is offline  
Old 05-29-2007, 11:53 PM   #71
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 44
Posts: 3,048
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redskins8588 View Post
Yeah, you are right to a point. Everyother Presidents did fire US Attorneys, the difference here is that the other Presidents fired the US Attorneys shortly after they took office, not half to 3 quarters way through there administration. These US Attorneys were ok for the first 6 or 7 years but now all of a sudden for the last year or so they are fired? Tell me another President, that wasnt newly elected, that fired as many US Attorneys as Bush did. I have no problem with the firings if the Attorneys deserved to be fired, but the ones that got fired all are singing the same tune. They did not adhear to their politcal parties demands. Basicly they decided to up hold the CONSTIUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, rather than surrender to the demands of the Republican party.
This hardly amounts to an eye-popping distinction. It's okay to fire all of them right away but you can't fire a few after 2 or 5 years? This is pure politics. The Democrats think that if they hold enough hearings someone will slip up. I'm amazed that they haven't found a crime to prosecute yet. I'm not sure if the obdurate simpleton, Janet Reno, could have withstood such scrutiny.

The Democrats seem to be operating under the misapprehension that somehow their 2006 election victory nullified the 2004 presidential election. Wishful thinking. The President can do what the hell he wants with hiring and firing.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Old 05-30-2007, 12:07 AM   #72
Playmaker
 
Redskins8588's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ridgway, PA
Age: 36
Posts: 2,519
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70Chip View Post
This hardly amounts to an eye-popping distinction. It's okay to fire all of them right away but you can't fire a few after 2 or 5 years? This is pure politics. The Democrats think that if they hold enough hearings someone will slip up. I'm amazed that they haven't found a crime to prosecute yet. I'm not sure if the obdurate simpleton, Janet Reno, could have withstood such scrutiny.

The Democrats seem to be operating under the misapprehension that somehow their 2006 election victory nullified the 2004 presidential election. Wishful thinking. The President can do what the hell he wants with hiring and firing.
But the point is that it was never done by any other president after 2 to 5 years. Not the democrats hoping for someone to slip up. Also, its not just the democrats there are members of the GOP that feel the same way...
__________________
"I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor
Redskins8588 is offline  
Old 05-30-2007, 12:42 AM   #73
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 44
Posts: 3,048
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redskins8588 View Post
But the point is that it was never done by any other president after 2 to 5 years. Not the democrats hoping for someone to slip up. Also, its not just the democrats there are members of the GOP that feel the same way...
They certainly are hoping for someone to slip up. No one can deny that. That's the nature of those hearings. Otherwise they could save money and do it by e-mail.

I think the President should have the right to hire and fire his people for whatever reason he wants. If the shoe were on the other foot, the donkeys would say the same. The congress cannot be allowed to meddle in the decisions of the executive in this way. They have broad powers but those powers do not extend to imposing their own political judgements on a President of the party opposite. Also, the Democrats would be wise to reign in Schumer a bit. He is an hopelessly self-righteous camera-hog and sooner or later everything that goes around comes around. The Democrats will likely gain the White House next year and a lot of this behaviour will be re-visited upon them in a most displeasing way. Patience is a nearly forgotten virtue in politics.

Finally, I would suggest that these wobbly Republicans are acting out of fear and not high-minded concern for the future of the Republic. Arlen Specter, for example, has been running scared ever since the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas hearings. He is only a Republican about half the time.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Old 05-30-2007, 01:27 AM   #74
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 36
Posts: 8,317
Re: Let's impeach the president.

Since this thread has gone off on so many tangents, is likely to get shut down soon, and will ultimately be sent to thread hell, let me respond with a few thoughts on many of the issues that have been raised.

(1) The firing of the assistant US Attorneys (AUSAs) was, IMHO, bad. No one in the administration is seriously defending the move and for good reason. Whomever is behind the matter deserves a serious public flogging. The firings were politically motivated and were an attempt to manipulate the justice system to serve very unsavory political ends.

(2) Everyone, including the French, thought Saddam had WMDs. Saddam tried to make everyone, allies and enemies alike, think he had WMDs. Guess what? It worked. Bush "beefed up" the intel, but he didn't lie when he said he was convinced Saddam had WMDs. We (including those like myself who were against going to war in the first instance) were simply wrong.

(3) I cannot figure out why anyone disagrees with "calling out" Iran. I do not want to go to war with them, but they're already at war with us. Iran has been training and equipping people in Iraq for years so they could kill Americans. Iran has a horrible human rights record. Iran is dominated by little Pat Robertsons. Like Hugo Chavez, Iran suppresses dissent by making midnight arrests and controlling the press. I cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone on either side of the political spectrum would disagree with condemning Iran's government, particularly those who have opposed US policy of supporting brutal and oppressive dictatorships.

(4) Finally, avoid engaging in personal attacks or risk losing posting privileges or access to political forums. No one cares to read posts that amount to a pissing contest between two or more posters that are simply annoying and which detract from the thread. Honest and civil debate is encouraged, but personal attacks are not tolerated.

End rant.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline  
Old 05-30-2007, 03:14 AM   #75
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 44
Posts: 3,048
Re: Let's impeach the president.

I think that this thread deserves no worse than limbo or purgatory. It doesn't seem particularly rancorous to me.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.30192 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25