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Old 08-01-2013, 11:22 AM   #1456
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at the end of the application filling process, its the last thing they ask if i remember correctly - gender, race.

i also believe (after a good year or so of applying for fed jobs and being highly qualified) that you will not get hired unless you are a minority, disabled or military vet.

the fed govt reply was that i had the pre-requisite qualifications but i wasnt selected for the interview process . . . i hate DC and the fed govt.
I seriously doubt if it ask if you are heterosexual or homosexual.

The GOVT looks for over qualified candidates to hire. So if you are serious about a GOVT job best to look for a job a rung or two below your experience to get your foot in then move up once you are in.

GOVT jobs are not that great anymore anyways you have just as much or even more security in the private industry.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:45 PM   #1457
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at the end of the application filling process, its the last thing they ask if i remember correctly - gender, race.

i also believe (after a good year or so of applying for fed jobs and being highly qualified) that you will not get hired unless you are a minority, disabled or military vet.

the fed govt reply was that i had the pre-requisite qualifications but i wasnt selected for the interview process . . . i hate DC and the fed govt.
Nope. I'm a double minority and as a black female with a college education, I can vouch that, yeah, no, the minority thing doesn't seem to work anymore.

I've been told by a friend that works an NIH, that they go straight for people that "know someone", after that its military, after that it's a free for all.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:59 PM   #1458
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That job site doesn't work if you're a straight, non-handicapped white male.


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Oh really? Based on what?
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #1459
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Oh really? Based on what?

I'm with SS on that . C'mon man!
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:07 AM   #1460
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Oh really? Based on what?

Reality and experience.

If you're not aware of the Government's attempt to artificially create "diversity" even at the expense of work quality...I don't know what else to say. It's been doing on forever but it's worse now than ever.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:36 AM   #1461
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Reality and experience.

If you're not aware of the Government's attempt to artificially create "diversity" even at the expense of work quality...I don't know what else to say. It's been doing on forever but it's worse now than ever.
Sure, whatever you say. I forgot who I was asking
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Nope. I'm a double minority and as a black female with a college education, I can vouch that, yeah, no, the minority thing doesn't seem to work anymore.

I've been told by a friend that works an NIH, that they go straight for people that "know someone", after that its military, after that it's a free for all.
Yup. I have been told the same thing by many in Fed service - with one more caveat. After the (1) know someone and (2) military categories, there is a third - already in Fed service. Apparently, it's a big hastle to get someone Federal clearance so that they are "employee ready". It's much easier to hire someone already on the Federal payroll b/c they are, generally, already cleared.

Everyone I have spoken to about it has indicated that breaking into Fed service is really, really tough but that, once in, it is much easier to move around. For that reason, they all recommend applying for jobs you are way over qualified for and may really be a big career step back. Even then, if it's too far up the ladder you have to really just blow everyone away.
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Nope. I'm a double minority and as a black female with a college education, I can vouch that, yeah, no, the minority thing doesn't seem to work anymore.

I've been told by a friend that works an NIH, that they go straight for people that "know someone", after that its military, after that it's a free for all.
Your probably correct. With the bad job market the person that knows someone is big and with all the people out of work just about everyone knows someone needing a job. It leaves the others fighting for whats left over and that's not much.
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Sure, whatever you say. I forgot who I was asking

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Past over for management position ... once again.
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Past over for management position ... once again.
Sorry to hear.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:47 AM   #1467
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Management is overrated anyway.
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Thanks mredskins.

Unfortunately Matty, I am capped out where I am. Can't get more pay without a higher grade, can't get a higher grade unless I get into management in another division. Besides, I already do a lot of the crappy work of management in my current position (personnel, procurement, manage multiple dockets, oversee junior attorneys) but am not even (after 20 years) graded as a senior attorney b/c my division has no slots for it. Got to move out to move up which sucks b/c I otherwise generally like my job.
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Thanks mredskins.

Unfortunately Matty, I am capped out where I am. Can't get more pay without a higher grade, can't get a higher grade unless I get into management in another division. Besides, I already do a lot of the crappy work of management in my current position (personnel, procurement, manage multiple dockets, oversee junior attorneys) but am not even (after 20 years) graded as a senior attorney b/c my division has no slots for it. Got to move out to move up which sucks b/c I otherwise generally like my job.
I hear ya, I'm in a similar spot in my job. Moved up a few years ago, hated and moved back down. Now I'm just riding things out until something better comes along.
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Past over for management position ... once again.
What's a management position in a law firm?
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