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Old 06-22-2007, 02:15 PM   #16
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Karma, friend Schneed, is a truly interesting concept.

If a disfiguring accident occurred to one of your little ones, would you be so quick to pun? Or very tolerant of those who made jokes at your child's expense?

But, hey, it's not your kid - why should you care.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:19 PM   #17
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i think I'm with schneed here. this girl suffered a horrific accident. something that has scarred her for life. but she will never read anything that is posted here. so may she put her best foot forward, and get on with her life
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:20 PM   #18
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Karma, friend Schneed, is a truly interesting concept.

If a disfiguring accident occurred to one of your little ones, would you be so quick to pun? Or very tolerant of those who made jokes at your child's expense?

But, hey, it's not your kid - why should you care.
1) I don't believe in karma.

2) Yes I'd be very upset if it happened to my daughter.

3) This is the perfect example of people taking a joke too seriously. Just because I make a pun, does that necessarily make it a fact that I'm not sad for the victim?

4) Sometimes the Warpath just needs a good kick in the ass.

5) If there's one lesson to be learned here? Keep your head out of the clouds and your feet on the ground!
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:33 PM   #19
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This is an interesting question. Is it in bad taste to fool around about a subject like this when the aflicted we surely never read it? On one hand the reason it is considered in poor taste is because of the insensitivity towards the victim and how their feelings would be rightfully hurt. So by that logic, assuming they would never read it, it really isn't all the bad to do. On the other hand there is the thought that something like this should not be made fun of since it was random and could have happened to anyone and making jokes shows a more general insensitivity. Not sure which way I fall on that.

Why do people think it is bad to make jokes? Not a challenge but pure curiosity to help me settle my thoughts on it.
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It's simple for me, I wouldn't want someone making light of a situation like this if it involved someone close to me. But hey that's just me. Some people would rather crack jokes and be an ass, but that's totally up to the individual.
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While I think that is some TASTELESS shit Schneed is spouting. I totally agree with the idea of turning the channel, if you can't hang with the format.
And YES, Americans have become ridiculously ......falsely, dramatic, and sensitive about EVERYTHING and totally lost the ability to laugh at themselves. I get sick of hearing so, and so disrepected somebody else. Stupid BS

Now on a more serious note, BAN SCHNEED
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Hopefully she figures out how to put her best foot forward.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:50 PM   #23
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Remember last year when a lot of people made fun of Holly Mangold (Nick's sister) and it turned out she was reading this site. You never know who's reading.

But if you have nothing to say, then say nothing. There seems to be a prevailing thought across this board that you're "required" to post. There's no need to post something sarcastic just because you think a thread is boring and mundane. Just ignore the thread.

I mean I'm as sarcastic as they come, but some things don't merit it.
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1) I don't believe in karma.

2) Yes I'd be very upset if it happened to my daughter.

3) This is the perfect example of people taking a joke too seriously. Just because I make a pun, does that necessarily make it a fact that I'm not sad for the victim?

4) Sometimes the Warpath just needs a good kick in the ass.

5) If there's one lesson to be learned here? Keep your head out of the clouds and your feet on the ground!
1) Fair enough - How about do unto others as you would have them do unto you?

2) So would I.

3) I did not take the joke too serioiusly - Rather, I thought it inappropriate. Big difference. Given your past posts and our past discussions, I assumed that you actually did feel bad for the young woman and her family. In part, b/c (I believe) I am familiar with your general feelings on "doing the right thing", I was particularly surprised by the posts.

4) Agreed, and as I said, there is plenty out there to kick in the ass and about which to laugh. Unforseen and unearned personal tragedies, however, strike me as not the appropriate subject for such a purpose. As I said, I believe laughter at others true misfortune is simply cruel and cruelty, under any circumstances is wrong and should be avoided.

5) Sigh.

Also, you never answered my question: What would your response be to those who make light of your child's disfiguring accident? At best, you might pass it off as strangers being jerks. In which case, how's it feel to be a jerk?

As for the comment that it is unlikely that this girl or her family would ever read the comment and, therefore, humor at her expense is fine, two thoughts:

1. It's the internet - who the hell knows who is reading this site. Maybe her family or friends are Skins fans and are regular posters here. It's possible. A simple internet rule is that you should asssume that your public posts WILL be read by the subject of your post.

2. Would it change your attitude if, after posting a pun, the search engine showed a thread title "Please Pray For My Neice" and it was about this young woman? If so, why? Is okay to be callous towards those we don't know?

Finally, there probably does come a time when it is appropriate to joke about tragedy - but (generally) that time frame is for the subject of the tragedy to determine. My quadrapalegic cousin and I used to joke about how she made a great second base woman. SBF has consistently shown that he has overcome, accepted and moved past his injury and constantly uses humor to reassure of these facts.

Humor and tragedy have there place. But so do respect and concern.
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i forgot about your leg. so if i offended you, i apologize
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This thread sucks without pics.

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Oh man even the word amputee is funny. Say it 5 times fast.
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Whatever happened to good old fashioned common sense and courtesy for your fellow man?

I mean, how far is too far now a days?
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While I think that is some TASTELESS shit Schneed is spouting. I totally agree with the idea of turning the channel, if you can't hang with the format.
And YES, Americans have become ridiculously ......falsely, dramatic, and sensitive about EVERYTHING and totally lost the ability to laugh at themselves. I get sick of hearing so, and so disrepected somebody else. Stupid BS

Now on a more serious note, BAN SCHNEED
While I agree that Americans are to sensitive about alott of stuff this is a different matter. When I said "Ban this Man" that was a joke about what I thought he posted in bad tast. Thats just my opinion.
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My ban suggestion was intended in jest as well
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This is an interesting question. Is it in bad taste to fool around about a subject like this when the aflicted we surely never read it? On one hand the reason it is considered in poor taste is because of the insensitivity towards the victim and how their feelings would be rightfully hurt. So by that logic, assuming they would never read it, it really isn't all the bad to do. On the other hand there is the thought that something like this should not be made fun of since it was random and could have happened to anyone and making jokes shows a more general insensitivity. Not sure which way I fall on that.
Assume for the moment that the girl, her family, her friends, other children on the ride who witnessed the accident, their families or their friends (starts to add up doesn't it?) will NEVER read any of this. I would suggest that does not change the inherent cruelty of the remark: A disfiguring accident happened to an innocent person and someone else laughed at it. I don't have to look up the definition of "cruel" to believe that behavior falls within its parameters.

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Why do people think it is bad to make jokes? Not a challenge but pure curiosity to help me settle my thoughts on it.
It is absolutely okay to make jokes appropriately. Humor can be great medicine in overcoming trauma. When offered by a victim, it is an excellent way of reassuring those concerned for the victim that they (the victim) are getting better (e.g. - some of SBF's comment about his leg). In this case, however, the humor was not created out of concern or kindess for the girl but, rather, as I said above, as a way to laugh at another's misfortune.

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While I think that is some TASTELESS shit Schneed is spouting. I totally agree with the idea of turning the channel, if you can't hang with the format.
And YES, Americans have become ridiculously ......falsely, dramatic, and sensitive about EVERYTHING and totally lost the ability to laugh at themselves. I get sick of hearing so, and so disrepected somebody else. Stupid BS
IMO, an overly general statement but useful - While people may be overly sensitive and "politically correct", does that mean the opposite approach is perfectly acceptable? Shouldn't there be a middle ground? Don't some things merit respect, concern or gravity? The mere fact that the concept of being "sensitive" has been overplayed does not mean there are no things to which we should be sensitive.

One more thing, just to be clear, I thought Schneed's remarks were cruel. I am also absolutely certain that they were not offered with cruel intentions.
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