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Old 07-17-2007, 02:25 AM   #286
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That's very true.
I'm surprised that Bush hasn't been impeached yet. The only two ever to go through that is Nixon and Clinton.

You know, I've always thought Clinton's impeachment was complete b.s. but after watching the last episode of Bill Moyers Journal I completely changed my mind. I think bringing up impeachment proceedings was the right thing to do. It was unfortunate that it was politicized and wasn't based on principles.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:28 AM   #287
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Umm what? Is this in response to someone...or just a random thought?

I'm just defending the media's reporting on the Bush administration, granted I don't think they're doing a good job of it.
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I'm just defending the media's reporting on the Bush administration, granted I don't think they're doing a good job of it.
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You know, I've always thought Clinton's impeachment was complete b.s. but after watching the last episode of Bill Moyers Journal I completely changed my mind. I think bringing up impeachment proceedings was the right thing to do. It was unfortunate that it was politicized and wasn't based on principles.

He most certainly deserved it. I think the fact that he was well liked by dems clouded the fact that he did deserve it.
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That's very true.
I'm surprised that Bush hasn't been impeached yet. The only two ever to go through that is Nixon and Clinton.

No, Andrew Johnson was nearly impeached in 1868.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:33 AM   #291
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I'm just defending the media's reporting on the Bush administration, granted I don't think they're doing a good job of it.
True. My only point was that past Presidents haven't had to "sleep in the bed they made" because times were different.
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No, Andrew Johnson was nearly impeached in 1868.
It was my understanding that only two presidents went through impeachment and that's Nixon and Clinton. I never heard anything about Johnson.
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It was my understanding that only two presidents went through impeachment and that's Nixon and Clinton. I never heard anything about Johnson.

JURIST - Impeachment 1868: The Trial of Andrew Johnson
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FYI. The wiggle your big toe comment from Kill Bill was actually a Quote from FDR after he was recovering from poliomyelitis. Just thought you might find that interesting.
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If anyone is interested here's the entire Bill Moyers Journal episode.

Bill Moyers Journal.
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As I understand it, NO President has ever been impeached. There have been impeachment trials, but no President has ever been impeached. Like Firstdown said, Nixon's impeachment was inevitable, so he resigned beforehand.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:39 AM   #297
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Back in 1867-68, somewhere around there the House impeached Andrew Johnson. But the Senate didn't convict him
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Didn't the same thing happen to Clinton, or was he acquitted at the House level? Either way, both were acquitted, and that doesn't constitute impeachment because they were not removed from office.
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Didn't the same thing happen to Clinton, or was he acquitted at the House level? Either way, both were acquitted, and that doesn't constitute impeachment because they were not removed from office.
I think you're confusing impeachment with conviction. Impeachment merely means formal charges have been brought, similar to an indictment. Impeachment is merely the first step toward removal from office.

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Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution states:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Essentially, a resolution to initiate impeachment proceedings is initiated in the House of Reps and forwarded to a committee for review. If the committee believes grounds for impeachment exist, it drafts articles of impeachment and submits them to the full House for approval. If passed by a majority vote, the Articles are then sent to the Senate which conducts a trial where the Senators sit as the judges and the Representatives act as the "prosecutor". Conviction takes a two-thirds vote of the entire Senate.

Clinton and Johnson were both impeached but aquitted.
Nixon resigned before being impeached. The impeachment process had begun as the House Judiciary Committee had recommended charges but the formal impeachment had not been approved by the House. Nixon deemed (correctly) that both the impeachment and subsequent conviction as inevitable and resigned instead.

Actual impeachments of only the following seventeen federal officers have taken place:

Two presidents: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, both acquitted.
One cabinet officer, acquitted after he had resigned.
One senator
Thirteen federal judges, including Associate Justice Samuel Chase in 1805, seven of whom were convicted (after his conviction, former judge Alcee Hastings was elected as a member of the House of Representatives).

See Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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