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Old 07-31-2007, 04:27 PM   #106
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if warpath comes thru, ill be at the lions game. and i am going to Tampa to see the skins. how about you? and thanks for the civil discussion
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Old 07-31-2007, 07:04 PM   #107
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In all actuality Terrorism became the threat as we know it today just after the end of the cold war. Much of it can be attributed to the Regan administration. we were laxidazily supporting both Palestinians and Israelis in the Middle East. All we wantd to do was promote peace in the region. Peace talks between the two peoples were never successfull. While the US tried to stay nuetral and promote peace the majority of its citizens were either of Jewish or Christian background. The Arab Nation believed that we were more supportive of the Israelis and made us an enemy. They started the attacks, and not a single thing was done about it until the Lil' Bush administration.
See, I believe that when the United States tries to "promote peace" in a region of the world that has never known it, all you do is wind up pissing somebody off. You're right that the Arab world saw us as favoring Israel. That's one of the primary reasons for anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world. Ultimately, I just think it proves that the best thing for us to do is to stay out of it. Just like you wouldn't leave your home today for a flight out to south-central Los Angeles looking to pick sides in whichever gang war you could find.

Keep in mind though -- Lil' Bush had no plans for terrorism until after the 9/11 attacks.

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You say that our presence in Iraq is not necessary and there is no real proof of progress. Well Sir, I would have to disagree. Had we not invaded Iraq do you think that we would have detered the attacks that we already have? Furthermore, do you believe that the attacks would have stopped if we just stayed in Afghanistan after 911. The terrorists had to flee Afghanistan and set up terror cells somewhere. Where would they be treated more at home than under the regime of Sadam Huessein? While I understand that Iraq is not the only place that they have relocated and occupied, why not knock out 2 birds with one stone? Iraqi's were not free and lived in terror themselves under the rule of a dictator that we overthrew.
The one thing 9/11 proved is that there really isn't any way to prevent a small group of determined religious fanatics from doing a whole lot of damage and killing lots of innocent civilians. The hijackers were able to carry out their plan without our being in Iraq. They conceived, planned, financed, trained, and succeeded in the United States -- in places like Minnesota and Virginia Beach -- right under our noses. No military occupation anywhere in the world will stop 6 or 7 guys from dropping off a suitcase bomb in a shopping mall.

The United States military is currently stationed in 130 countries all over the world. Our presence in all of these places didn't deter the 9/11 attacks. Our imperialistic attitude will only serve to foster more hatred toward us.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:17 PM   #108
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I'm willing to give him the credit, if he is willing to accept the blame? no one in this administration has ever admitted to being wrong about anything.
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:42 PM   #109
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lol...good post
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:15 AM   #110
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i think bob dole has the best plan
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:10 AM   #111
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thanks. it only took 6+ years to get it. but it is a start. the americaqn people need to hear this kind of thing
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