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Old 07-27-2007, 05:19 AM   #16
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This seems like scare tactics to me. They mention extreme cases in which Pot may have been a factor in killings. Is it to anyones suprise that this was goverment funded research?

And let me say this, I have never wanted to kill somebody after I smoke a J. I only feel that way when I can't find any. J/K!
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:56 AM   #17
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I used to watch H.R. Puff 'n' Stuff.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:09 AM   #18
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C'mon is this 1950 again??

What a joke.
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It said one JOINT. It does NOT however mention bongs or bowls.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:25 AM   #20
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It said one JOINT. It does NOT however mention bongs or bowls.
LOL maybe they should be blaming E-Z widers then
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:39 AM   #21
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On a somewhat related note, God wants us to smoke up!

Minister: Marijuana is a sacrament - Focus on Faith - MSNBC.com
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On a somewhat related note, God wants us to smoke up!

Minister: Marijuana is a sacrament - Focus on Faith - MSNBC.com
The 41-year-old Rubin has no legal experience, and says he spent last weekend praying and smoking marijuana with Indians in a sweat lodge at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

That's awesome....
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:22 AM   #23
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Wishful thinking on all of your parts. So easy to dismiss scientific studies when they affect you and your habits!

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Old 07-27-2007, 09:24 AM   #24
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I mean what's hard to understand here?

Mental illness is caused by chemical imbalances in your brain. Smoking weed introduces chemicals to your brain to make you feel good.

You mean introducing enough chemicals to your brain over time could actually create a chemical imbalance???

Me no get it!
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:40 AM   #25
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ok ok ok this is total BS
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:51 AM   #26
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c'mon schneed, I know you're a strong anti-weed guy but I would think even you could see the complete BS of this. It's total propoganda. It reminds me of the old myth that 7 acid trips will make you insane. If you're already predisposed to mental illness I agree this could possibly trigger something, but then again there are probably plenty of other chemicals that could also be a trigger, but to make the claim that 1 joint causes mental illness is just well, insane.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:18 AM   #27
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c'mon schneed, I know you're a strong anti-weed guy but I would think even you could see the complete BS of this. It's total propoganda. It reminds me of the old myth that 7 acid trips will make you insane. If you're already predisposed to mental illness I agree this could possibly trigger something, but then again there are probably plenty of other chemicals that could also be a trigger, but to make the claim that 1 joint causes mental illness is just well, insane.
Well to be technical, they didn't say one joint CAUSES mental illness, they said it increases the risk by 40%. Now if we do some careful analysis on that, we might find that the reason the risk goes up 40% may not be due to the weed; it may be because people who are prone to smoke weed are just by nature 40% more likely to be mentally ill. Therefore, weed may not be the cause of the full 40% increase in risk. And just from a gut feel, you can kind of sense that one joint can't possibly CAUSE schizophrenia; rather simply that schizophrenia shows up 40% more often in people who have had at least one joint in their life.

But reading the full article, rather than just this sensational headline, you see that the more alarming stat is that repeated use of weed doubles your risk for Schizophrenia. And that makes sense to me, from a gut feel point of view. Schizophrenia is caused by chemical imbalances. Smoking weed puts chemicals in your brain. Therefore, if you smoke enough weed, you might cause a chemical imbalance.

Of course, what does it mean to "double the risk" of schizophrenia? That means they're saying the average person has something like a 0.01% chance of developing schizophrenia. Then they're saying that if that person smokes weed a lot over the course of his life, he becomes 0.02% likely to develop schizophrenia. It doubled the risk. Of course, the risk is still low, even after smoking weed.

That's what a little analysis can say. I do agree that they're trying to scare people with these sensational headlines. But I also agree with the validity of the science. Try to cut through both, and you get to the truth: they're probably right that weed doubles your chance of being a Schizo, but even after doubling the chances, it's still not that likely that you'll be a Schizo.
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I think it's a poorly written article and it's full of scare tactics. I have seen reports on links between weed and schizophrenia before, but this article is just over the top.
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The 41-year-old Rubin has no legal experience, and says he spent last weekend praying and smoking marijuana with Indians in a sweat lodge at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

That's awesome....
the big ones are 50, these ones are 25, and the little ones are 10. haha
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:44 AM   #30
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I think it's a poorly written article and it's full of scare tactics. I have seen reports on links between weed and schizophrenia before, but this article is just over the top.
Yeah I agree, it is. Just like everything else the media puts out. They twist it and put a sensational headline on it to get people to either buy their paper, buy their magazine, or click on their webpage.

I do agree there's a link between weed and schizophrenia. Do I think the increased risk is anything to worry about? No. Even after you double the risk, it's still not a risky thing.

That said, I still wouldn't do it, because the sh*t flat out reeks!

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