Democratic Debate

saden1 · 01-22-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

im really surprised that Edwards isn't doing better. he was clearly on top of his game last night. as far as the comparison between the parties, its no contest. the GOP wants to stay in Iraq, the Dem's want us out. its that simple. the GOP wants health care status quo, the Dem's want universal health care. as the republicans stress changing the immigration laws. too me, its a non issue. while i think John McCain would be a viable choice for the white house, he is too old( and a career politician) i think we need change at the top.

Edwards is all talk and no substance. He is talking about all these issues and things he wants to tackle if he is president but he didn't do shit when he was a Senator. It's not what you say that matters but what you do and Edwards hasn't done shit when he had a chance.

saden1 · 01-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You know some backwoods guy is going to try to kill Obama if he got elected president. I think that's in the back of every minority's mind (and maybe some who aren't minorities).

I don't think that's an issue...There's always someone that wants to kill you when you're president and Obama is no exception. I mean, you think Bush can walk around freely?

DynamiteRave · 01-22-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

I don't think that's an issue...There's always someone that wants to kill you when you're president and Obama is no exception. I mean, you think Bush can walk around freely?

I think he has a much better chance of that than a White man. Trust me, to some people in the world, they don't see you as Black they just see you as a no good (Insert N word here).

dmek25 · 01-22-2008, 02:56 PM

i agree. some of the people in the good old southern part of our country still wave the confederate flag, and have alot of backwards ideas.

12thMan · 01-22-2008, 04:00 PM

Umm...I happen to think America is ready for either a woman or a black man. I've spoken to southern whites that will vote for Barack and some men that are leaning toward Hillary. I understand the notion that people might not be ready for this or that, but one thing is for sure people are ready for change regardless of the candidate and regardless of which side of the aisle they're on.

Obviously I don't know any of this for sure because I haven't talked to every American

But the handful that I have spoken to are leaning toward Hillary or Barack.

I get the feeling that Edwards is lining himself up more and more for the VP nod. During his debates, his rhetoric tends to lean more towards Senator Obama's positions on a few issues. With each primary state that passes and the sparse number of delegates Edward's is being awarded, at some point it just becomes a numbers game and he'll have to bow out. But he'll grit his teeth until the last minute and then bow out. Afterward, I would fully expect him to endorse Senator Obama.

hooskins · 01-22-2008, 04:25 PM

I am going to have to agree with DynamiteRave here. I think a Black president would be more hated than Bush is right now. We do have an extremely backwards society.

I feel like some people will simply vote Republican because Obama is Black(if he gets the Democratic Ticket).

SmootSmack · 01-22-2008, 04:42 PM

Not really related to the democratic debate, but I didn't feel like starting new thread about it. Fred Thompson has dropped out

Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com

hooskins · 01-22-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not really related to the democratic debate, but I didn't feel like starting new thread about it. Fred Thompson has dropped out

Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com

Guess George Allen is upset now.

firstdown · 01-22-2008, 04:58 PM

EDWARDS: ....I've committed not to have any corporate lobbyists working in my White House on the first day that I'm president. Will you make the same commitment?

Is that even something that he could stop as President. I feel thats one of those thing you say you will do then if elected you try to present a bill which you know will be voted down but then you can say you tried. I know the President cannot present a bill but you get the point. This idea of Obama and people hating him is from people up north watching too much TV about dumb southern hick guys.

RobH4413 · 01-22-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

EDWARDS: ....I've committed not to have any corporate lobbyists working in my White House on the first day that I'm president. Will you make the same commitment?

Is that even something that he could stop as President. I feel thats one of those thing you say you will do then if elected you try to present a bill which you know will be voted down but then you can say you tried. I know the President cannot present a bill but you get the point. This idea of Obama and people hating him is from people up north watching too much TV about dumb southern hick guys.

Yeah totally...

But what about the second day he's president...

All bets are off then.

saden1 · 01-23-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Yeah totally...

But what about the second day he's president...

All bets are off then.

lol...good one!

RobH4413 · 01-23-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

lol...good one!

Names Rob... I'll be here all year long.

*sigh

onlydarksets · 01-23-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'll tell you what. I think a lot of conservatives(note: not "Republicans") would completely disagree. To me there isn't much difference at all. They're both full of big government know it alls ready to spend our money as fast as they can as long as they can get votes out of it.

Very true. I'm shocked by the number of conservatives who still consider their interests aligned with the Republican party. The party ideologies shifted 100 years ago - I wonder if there is another shift coming? Of course, I don't see the Dems backing off on gov't-funded programs any time soon, but I could see a new Republican party with a true conservative garner a lot of votes.

01-22-2008, 02:56 PM	#19
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,448	Re: Democratic Debate i agree. some of the people in the good old southern part of our country still wave the confederate flag, and have alot of backwards ideas. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-22-2008, 04:00 PM	#20
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,366	Re: Democratic Debate Umm...I happen to think America is ready for either a woman or a black man. I've spoken to southern whites that will vote for Barack and some men that are leaning toward Hillary. I understand the notion that people might not be ready for this or that, but one thing is for sure people are ready for change regardless of the candidate and regardless of which side of the aisle they're on. Obviously I don't know any of this for sure because I haven't talked to every American But the handful that I have spoken to are leaning toward Hillary or Barack. I get the feeling that Edwards is lining himself up more and more for the VP nod. During his debates, his rhetoric tends to lean more towards Senator Obama's positions on a few issues. With each primary state that passes and the sparse number of delegates Edward's is being awarded, at some point it just becomes a numbers game and he'll have to bow out. But he'll grit his teeth until the last minute and then bow out. Afterward, I would fully expect him to endorse Senator Obama.

01-22-2008, 04:25 PM	#21
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 26 Posts: 8,568	Re: Democratic Debate I am going to have to agree with DynamiteRave here. I think a Black president would be more hated than Bush is right now. We do have an extremely backwards society. I feel like some people will simply vote Republican because Obama is Black(if he gets the Democratic Ticket). __________________ Vacancy

01-22-2008, 04:42 PM	#22
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,221	Re: Democratic Debate Not really related to the democratic debate, but I didn't feel like starting new thread about it. Fred Thompson has dropped out Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-22-2008, 04:58 PM	#24
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,278	Re: Democratic Debate EDWARDS: ....I've committed not to have any corporate lobbyists working in my White House on the first day that I'm president. Will you make the same commitment? Is that even something that he could stop as President. I feel thats one of those thing you say you will do then if elected you try to present a bill which you know will be voted down but then you can say you tried. I know the President cannot present a bill but you get the point. This idea of Obama and people hating him is from people up north watching too much TV about dumb southern hick guys.

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