Loose Change

djnemo65 · 02-17-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

My system is based on stastical probability. Like after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit. The only way to figure this out is to do a study of how often all those numbers / colors etc hit...I did a study of well over 10000 rolls. My statistics are accurate, and have proven to be so with winnings. It's clear as day. The winnings don't lie.

OK, so you studied 10,000 rolls and what were your conclusions? If it was anything other than all numbers have an equal chance of hitting at all times then I am going to have to join in the chorus questioning both your methodology and your sanity.

Anyway J, don't tell too many people about this. I enjoy Vegas and I don't want the town going out of business.

jsarno · 02-17-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah, jsarno, you're dead wrong on the red and black thing. You're basically saying that if you flip a coin and it lands on heads 3 times in a row, then it's more than 50% likely to land on tails during the next flip.

That's flat out incorrect. Events that happened in the past are exactly that, in the past. They do nothing to change the probabilities of future outcomes.

Your stance makes you appear uneducated.

Really don't care how I appear, my wallet is much fatter for it...like I said, that's all the proof I need.

ps- My buddy, a DR. just won $750 using my method. I guess he's pretty uneducated too. hahaha

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 11:28 PM

You know what's funny? First this thread was about the 9/11 mockumentary "Loose Change"

And now (after being hijacked multiple times) it's about gambling strategies in Vegas...so I guess it's still about Loose Change

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Really don't care how I appear, my wallet is much fatter for it...like I said, that's all the proof I need.

ps- My buddy, a DR. just won $750 using my method. I guess he's pretty uneducated too. hahaha

what's a DR?

JGisLordOfTheRings · 02-17-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You know what's funny? First this thread was about the 9/11 mockumentary "Loose Change"

And now (after being hijacked multiple times) it's about gambling strategies in Vegas...so I guess it's still about Loose Change

HAHAHA....at least it stayed on topic!

jsarno · 02-17-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

OK, so you studied 10,000 rolls and what were your conclusions? If it was anything other than all numbers have an equal chance of hitting at all times then I am going to have to join in the chorus questioning both your methodology and your sanity.

Anyway J, don't tell too many people about this. I enjoy Vegas and I don't want the town going out of business.

Honestly, it's a lot of pages worth of studies, I have a long book written on it. I haven't even scratched the surface of describing the method here. There was a thread here a LONG time ago that explained it a little, and some here even PMed me to thank me for helping them win money. Of course there were others that just went ahead and insulted me due to their own fears and fart sniffing. It's all good.
Vegas wouldn't go out of business cause of my book, you don't bet enough money to win enough money to break vegas. You have to start small...$5 max in each section, then go from there.
What I find most amusing is the amount of people that are willing to try and be successful, and the amount of people that would rather not bother and persecute those that do. When you sit back and watch how people react, it's quite interesting. The same people tell you "Mari-ju-wana is bad mmm kay", and yet they haven't tried it...the same people that tell you not to open up and try and they are content to sit on the sidelines and watch life.

Regardless, if you are content knowing only what you know, how will you ever learn anything new? (be warned that some here think they know everything)

ps- if you beleive in the ideal of carma, than understanding other things are possible becomes a lot easier.

jsarno · 02-17-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

what's a DR?

Doctor.

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 11:38 PM

Do you sell your book?

jsarno · 02-17-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you sell your book?

I have given it to very close friends and family...it is not publishing worthy yet. I haven't had the time to refine it to get it published. I am not a good author.

jsarno · 02-17-2008, 11:59 PM

BTW- if people here feel like insulting me or at the least be negative towards my program despite all the success it has had, that's your choice, and carry on...but I will not be commenting on it any further, it's not going anywhere, and I should not have contributed to hijacking a thread. My bad.

Thanks guys...I look forward to constructive conversation with some of you elswhere in this site.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 02-18-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

BTW- if people here feel like insulting me or at the least be negative towards my program despite all the success it has had, that's your choice, and carry on...but I will not be commenting on it any further, it's not going anywhere, and I should not have contributed to hijacking a thread. My bad.

Thanks guys...I look forward to constructive conversation with some of you elswhere in this site.

But, it's not hijacked cuz were still talking about Loose Change here, right?

SmootSmack · 02-18-2008, 12:03 AM

Have you ever heard of the Monte Carlo Fallacy?

jsarno · 02-18-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Have you ever heard of the Monte Carlo Fallacy?

Alright, this will be my last comment here on this.
1- Yes I have...it stems from back in the early 1900's in Monte Carlo where a supposedly "legit" stastical anomoly occured where red or black (can't remember which) hit like 26 times in a row. But the difference between me and most is that I understand it is possible, and I have mentioned before that nothing is 100% certain. I go by the odds, and play the odds when they are in my favor, not when they are not. Have I lost some battles? Absolutely, but never lost a war.
2- Why in the world do people care, and care to comment on things they haven't even tried? It's shocking really. Is it cause people here just like to argue? It's like males commenting on what it's like to give birth.

Again, no one has to beleive, and I am not forcing my facts / statistical proof on anyone, so it's time to move on.

SmootSmack · 02-18-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Alright, this will be my last comment here on this.
1- Yes I have...it stems from back in the early 1900's in Monte Carlo where a supposedly "legit" stastical anomoly occured where red or black (can't remember which) hit like 26 times in a row. But the difference between me and most is that I understand it is possible, and I have mentioned before that nothing is 100% certain. I go by the odds, and play the odds when they are in my favor, not when they are not. Have I lost some battles? Absolutely, but never lost a war.
2- Why in the world do people care, and care to comment on things they haven't even tried? It's shocking really. Is it cause people here just like to argue? It's like males commenting on what it's like to give birth.

Again, no one has to beleive, and I am not forcing my facts / statistical proof on anyone, so it's time to move on.

1. But doesn't the Monte Carlo Fallacy essentially refute the notion that "after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit"?

2. Just trying to find out more about your method. Sorry that I'm not rushing out to a casino right now to try it and get back to you.

jsarno · 02-18-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1. But doesn't the Monte Carlo Fallacy essentially refute the notion that "after black has hit 3 times in a row, it is statistically higher than 50/50 that red will hit"?

2. Just trying to find out more about your method. Sorry that I'm not rushing out to a casino right now to try it and get back to you.

I will comment via PM.

02-17-2008, 11:28 PM	#153
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Loose Change You know what's funny? First this thread was about the 9/11 mockumentary "Loose Change" And now (after being hijacked multiple times) it's about gambling strategies in Vegas...so I guess it's still about Loose Change __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-17-2008, 11:38 PM	#158
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Loose Change Do you sell your book? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-17-2008, 11:59 PM	#160
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38 Posts: 9,534	Re: Loose Change BTW- if people here feel like insulting me or at the least be negative towards my program despite all the success it has had, that's your choice, and carry on...but I will not be commenting on it any further, it's not going anywhere, and I should not have contributed to hijacking a thread. My bad. Thanks guys...I look forward to constructive conversation with some of you elswhere in this site. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

02-18-2008, 12:03 AM	#162
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Loose Change Have you ever heard of the Monte Carlo Fallacy? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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