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Old 03-03-2008, 06:26 PM   #31
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sorry the truth hurts. it seems to me that every time president Bush, or John McCain starts slipping in polls, the terror alert goes up. or in any election year, fill in the blank with any republicans name. and i don't know how you can say the American people TRUST the republicans in regards to any issue. this administration has taken lying to the public to new heights
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:56 PM   #32
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History is replete with examples of BOTH Dems and Repubs exploiting news, wars, tragedies, etc. for political gain. For example, FDR (a God to most Dems) talked a lot about "not fearing fear," but then he used bad intelligence to imprison hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans. The "internment camps" make Gitmo and the secret detentions look rather trivial. Neither side has a monopoly on cheap exploitation IMO. As much as I love this country and our system of government, I've never fully trusted my government and I never will.

As for the "war on terrorism," I think the Repubs use it for political advantage. But, on the other hand, I think they also genuinely feel that the war on terrorism is more "real" than Dems.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:03 PM   #33
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Kinda like when Clinton suddenly decided it was imperative to launch airstrikes on Iraq the night before his impeachment hearings began
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Kinda like when Clinton suddenly decided it was imperative to launch airstrikes on Iraq the night before his impeachment hearings began
Even I had to laugh at that one.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:21 PM   #35
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Kinda like when Clinton suddenly decided it was imperative to launch airstrikes on Iraq the night before his impeachment hearings began
And on Kosovo on the eve of Monica's depo.
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This is ridiculous to me. Exploiting issues to their advantage is what politicians do. If I said, "I think health care is an important topic, I just don't like the way the Democrats use it to score points", wouldn't that be ridiculous? Why should terrorism be off limits in this regard? The reality is that the American people trust the Republicans more on terrorism and security, so the Democrats respond by implying that this is somehow offsides. I think that's weak.

I'm a republican and if I recall the republicans were in office when the worst terrorist attack in our nations history took place. Having faith in them in spite of that is weak. Actually its completely beyond my comprehension, and the fact that this administration found out who's responsible and has not allocated the manpower and resources to bring him to justice is a failure. How so many see it any other way is beyond me.
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Usually when it comes to govt. I'm a "less is more" kinda guy, which pretty much puts me in line with the Republicans. Especially when it comes to moral issues like gun control and abortion rights, however I've lost faith in the Republican leadership. I really think we need a change of pace. Keeping things as they are in this country aren't an option. We're not exactly living in ethiopia over here, but we're moving in the wrong direction and we need to right the ship.

As far as using political issues to gain public opinion, I just feel that America is duped into thinking that the Republicans are the only way they're going to be safe. I feel the same way about the news commercials that say shit like, "Your child could die tomorrow. Find out more at 11"

I know people who watch the news constantly and worry to death about things that they needn't, just because fear tends to breed consumption, and salespeople (whether it be by politicians or news people) use this to exploit the "sheep".

On a side note I had the culligan man in my house to test my water last month. Turns out I don't really need anything. He could have tried to scare me into buying something but he didn't. I've turned him onto 3 people since then who have bought water systems for their house because he was a nice honest guy. Had he been a D bag and told me how my water wasn't safe for my kids because of "microbacteria" I woudlve just sent him packing.
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And on Kosovo on the eve of Monica's depo.
It was The Sudan. In August of 1998. I remember because i was taking computer classes at the time and my C++ teacher was Sudanese and he was really horrified by it. Clinton claimed it was a chemical weapons factory and I think it turned out to be an Ibuprophen manufacturing plant. This poor immigrant teacher was really a decent guy and after this incident, he wouldn't look us in the face. All because of a ****ing blowjob. Talk about using terror for political advantage.

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tuna, i feel you. the whole terrorists thing is definitely being used by the republican party. the patriot act could have been a good thing, if it didnt get side tacked for other purposes
What other purposes are you talking about?
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sorry the truth hurts. it seems to me that every time president Bush, or John McCain starts slipping in polls, the terror alert goes up. or in any election year, fill in the blank with any republicans name. and i don't know how you can say the American people TRUST the republicans in regards to any issue. this administration has taken lying to the public to new heights
Has this administration been lying more than others or just in a situtation where they feel some stuff has to be kept secret so they can fight terroism. How can we go after and find people when the dems. keep trying to make issues with everyway they search for terrorist only making it public so it becomes useless. If the Dems have issues with how the Whitehouse has done things then go behind closed doors and dissucuse the issue don't make make it pubilic rendering that programe useless. If then they still have issues they could say thats fine we are going public.
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i think that they have had closed door discussions. this administrations arrogance tells me its George Bush's way, or the highway. maybe the only way the Dem's think they can get the issue resolved is by leaking some of it to the press
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