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Old 03-07-2008, 09:57 PM   #16
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thanks. After speaking with the family last night, its up to me. We can either go to Denver, Tampa, or some city in Germany I have not enough interest in to learn the name. I'm actually leaning towards tampa. We will have a bit of a nest egg, and my wife is registered with several asset companies that are nationwide, so she can still get business, and I can always go back to being a greaseball lying sack of shit car salesman if I need some dough
I am a big FLA fan and a HUGE Gulf side fan/ Water is warm and life amore laid back. Tampa is basically just like any other city but hell you live at the beach basically. You can drive up and down the Gulf coast and find some of the nicest beaches in the world.

Biggest draw back...Snow Birds. November to April traffic gets a little slower with all the oldies clogging up the roads. Tampa probably doesn't get hit too hard with this though. We were close to moving there about 3 years ago and if the right opportunity came up I bet we'd do it.
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thanks. After speaking with the family last night, its up to me. We can either go to Denver, Tampa, or some city in Germany I have not enough interest in to learn the name. I'm actually leaning towards tampa. We will have a bit of a nest egg, and my wife is registered with several asset companies that are nationwide, so she can still get business, and I can always go back to being a greaseball lying sack of shit car salesman if I need some dough
Tampa is nice...I usually travel there once a year (my best friend lives in Fort Myers, FL). My only problems with Tampa is the massive amount of immigrants, and hurricanes...and I was in North Fort Myers when hurricane Charley hit. Other than that, I like the area. It's even close to Orlando, which is great place too.

ps- you can't really swim in most of the waters out there in Tampa...they either have a massive amount of Aligators, or they have a lot of sharks...once a year a school of 50-200 sharks gather right around Tampa. It usually makes the news, and the papers,...you can see it from the sky.
Either way, you'll make a good choice. If you like mild weather, Tampa is your place.
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Move to Denver, life isnt as fast there. Buy yourself a pair of skis, take lessons and never look back. Denver is from what I have heard a nice place to live, and it has a relatively low crime rate. Safety and skiing perfect.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:08 AM   #19
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Tampa is nice...I usually travel there once a year (my best friend lives in Fort Myers, FL). My only problems with Tampa is the massive amount of immigrants, and hurricanes...and I was in North Fort Myers when hurricane Charley hit. Other than that, I like the area. It's even close to Orlando, which is great place too.

ps- you can't really swim in most of the waters out there in Tampa...they either have a massive amount of Aligators, or they have a lot of sharks...once a year a school of 50-200 sharks gather right around Tampa. It usually makes the news, and the papers,...you can see it from the sky.
Either way, you'll make a good choice. If you like mild weather, Tampa is your place.
Well alligators don't live in ocean waters and the shark issue is over blown.

Anyone going to a beach in Tampa would have a MUCH higher chance of dying in a car accident on the way there and I doubt anyone goes swimming in the swamps where the alligators are.
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tuna, i was in Tampa over thanksgiving, and would move there in a heart beat. beautiful weather, lots to do ( channel-side, ybor city, all kinds of sports, and concerts) very nice people. and St Petersburg beach is one of the nicest in the country. i went swimming when i was there, no problems. and my friends been there 18 years, and only had issues with one hurricane.
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Very interesting situation you have, Tuna. You're actually considering moving away because your family is considering it. You must either really love your extended family or are not at all attached to your current job.

That's so far opposite from me that it's tough for me to even comprehend. If my in-laws moved away I'd wave bon voyage, see you at Christmas! LOL

But if you don't mind cold weather, I hear Denver is a lovely place to live.
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schneed, what if your wife was putting pressure on you to follow her family? its a tough situation to be in
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its an interesting situation because I'm not married to my job. I can go anywhere and either do electrical work or sell cars. My wife has clients here, but recently her clients are all asset companies that are located all across the US. All she has to do is change zip codes. And my in-laws would gladly help with any incidentals that may arise unforseen. We've been planning to move to Charlotte or Ashville NC for a while, and wanted to go while the kids are young. My wife was a military girl so she likes a change of scenery from time to time.

My in-laws are actually great people and I do enjoy spending time with them. As much as they've helped us in the past, and given that Tampa seems like a nice place and I've wanted to live near the beach since I was a kid, it makes sense. I think we're gonna do it.
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Old 03-08-2008, 12:09 PM   #24
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tuna, this may interest you. the Tampa area is very relaxed when it comes to drinking. people were drinking the whole time i was there. and drinking just about every where. and with out any hassles
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schneed, what if your wife was putting pressure on you to follow her family? its a tough situation to be in
Well if I was Tuna, and I liked my in-laws, and I didn't feel tied to a job, then I would move.

But for me personally, in my situation, I'd have to tell my wife tough sh*t. I love my job, there's no chance of me getting transferred since I work for a chain of hospitals here in Philly, and my own family lives around here. So following my wife's family would mean leaving my own, so that wouldn't work for me. Moving would mean leaving one side of the family, and staying behind would mean leaving the other side of the family. There'd be nothing to gain from moving, either way I'd be losing a side.

But every situation is different. Tuna's got fewer roots laid down than I do, so he can do it.

But moving is expensive as all get-out. I assume you own, Tuna? $3000-$5000 for movers, 4-6% real estate commission on the sale of your home (unless you do it by owner, but that'd be real hard in this market), $10 - $20K for closing costs on a new mortgage, plus the down payment on the new home which hopefully you can roll over from the sale of your existing home (provided the closing costs and real estate commissions don't bite you too badly).
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my wife is a realtor, and I've got an inactive license... also one of us would get a license in fl, so we would make commissions on the sale of our home, her folks home, and her sisters, and then help us all purchase new homes. It would turn out to be somewhat lucrative for us if we all moved.

Ive heard, though that there is a different class of people in the Tampa area. The insinuation was that it was a pretty trashy place. I'm not exactly a sheltered guy, but I dont want my daughters going to school in a rough place. Im paying for private school for my oldest, but was planning on switching her when my youngest got old enough for school...

anyone have any insight on the "trashiness" of the area?
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As far as my family, my mom packed up and left me when I was 17, so I have no qualms with leaving her. The only deterrent is that she has a great relationship with my kids. However, I'm not going to live my life tied to either one of them. I have always wanted to live near a beach, and hope this is an opportunity to do that and maintain a good standard of living for my family.
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:43 AM   #28
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my wife is a realtor, and I've got an inactive license... also one of us would get a license in fl, so we would make commissions on the sale of our home, her folks home, and her sisters, and then help us all purchase new homes. It would turn out to be somewhat lucrative for us if we all moved.

Ive heard, though that there is a different class of people in the Tampa area. The insinuation was that it was a pretty trashy place. I'm not exactly a sheltered guy, but I dont want my daughters going to school in a rough place. Im paying for private school for my oldest, but was planning on switching her when my youngest got old enough for school...

anyone have any insight on the "trashiness" of the area?

Greetings C, I live in Naples. I go to Tampa to see the Skins play or some other major event periodically (as Naples is to small to get the really big stuff). Seems like a nice city. Fl IS laid back. You can basically go anywhere in shorts, and flipflops. The warmest jacket I own is a windbreaker. As far as Tampa, it is a large city with large city challenges......good area's and bad. You will have to shop housing, and school district together. I grew up in Mongomery County, Maryland. I can say, I have been VERY happy with the school district my kids are in, in Naples.
The gulf beaches are the best in the US (warm water). The Keys are Bahamian like in water color. If you fish, camp, or like the outdoors, you will love it. People here tend to live outside more. You will use your lanai, or pool area like a living room in the NE
Take your time as there are many really beautiful places in Fl.

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Greetings C, I live in Naples. I go to Tampa to see the Skins play or some other major event periodically (as Naples is to small to get the really big stuff). Seems like a nice city. Fl IS laid back. You can basically go anywhere in shorts, and flipflops. The warmest jacket I own is a windbreaker. As far as Tampa, it is a large city with large city challenges......good area's and bad. You will have to shop housing, and school district together. I grew up in Mongomery County, Maryland. I can say, I have been VERY happy with the school district my kids are in, in Naples.
The gulf beaches are the best in the US (warm water). The Keys are Bahamian like in water color. If you fish, camp, or like the outdoors, you will love it. People here tend to live outside more. You will use your lanai, or pool area like a living room in the NE
Take your time as there are many really beautiful places in Fl.

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thanks,

yeah I grew up in southeast texas about an hour from galveston, so Im familiar with the 120 degree high humidity heat... not that i ever got used to it, but I remember it. Walking to my car and soaking my shirt before I could get the AC kicking really sucked...
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yeah I grew up in southeast texas about an hour from galveston, so Im familiar with the 120 degree high humidity heat... not that i ever got used to it, but I remember it. Walking to my car and soaking my shirt before I could get the AC kicking really sucked...
I spent 15 years in beautiful Baytown, Tx (20 mile E of Houston). Summers are indentical, except no 747 mosquito problem. Not real buggy at all. Winters are humidity free (50%) from Nov/Dec-March/April, 75 and Sunny. Meanig no disrespect to Galveston, the gulf water is clear and the beaches are white sand. Very nice
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