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Old 03-21-2008, 12:59 AM   #16
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Well, I couldn't find it in the article. I know it was drug related, but I'd like to know what exactly he did that was HORRIBLE.

LB, I hope you don't think I was trying to put you on the spot with this thread.
If he was convicted of Federal drug charges, then I would think he was a major player in the distribution of controlled substances. We're not talking about being busted for a small bag of marijuana. When the DEA comes knocking on your door, then you know you're in some pretty big doo doo.

I don't feel put on the spot. I wish I were in a position where I could shed a bit more light on how the federal prison system works. However, I only work at the lowly state level, so my knowledge is very limited. If memory serves, someone else here has mentioned working within the federal prison system in the past. Maybe they can offer a more educated opinion than I can.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:08 AM   #17
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Jsarno, I think you are reading a little too much into the article.
He was convicted on Methamphetamine charges. I don't know if he sold or used but I wouldn't categorize a Meth charge as a HORRIBLE act.
Also, I never read in the article where he blamed anyone other than himself.

Major players don't get 5 years. I have an uncle that was a player down in Jsarnos area and he is serving 25 to life.

With that said, This guy has completed over 90% of his sentence in a minimum security prison. He is going to be released in August to a halfway house. They are not asking to give the father a break, They are simply asking for compassion for a dying little girl.

My personal opinion is that he should not get released for an extended period of time but a few days, Maybe a weekend while staying at a halfway house.
If his last name was Hilton, He would've been out 2.5 years ago.



They let inmates out for funerals, I think saying goodbye to the child while she is living is more important than going to her funeral which he would be released for.

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Old 03-21-2008, 03:12 AM   #18
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If a terminal Illness isn't a family crisis, I don't know what is.
I can't imagine anything worse than watching your own child die.

BOP: Inmate Temporary Release From Custody

Under special, limited circumstances, inmates who meet strict requirements may be allowed temporary releases from the institution through furloughs and staff-escorted trips. A furlough allows inmates to be in the community without a staff escort.

There are several purposes for furloughs: for example these enable inmates to be present during a family crisis, facilitate re-establishing family and community ties, and allow an inmate to participate in certain activities to help his/her release transition. The Bureau may authorize staff-escorted trips for purposes such as visiting a critically-ill family member; attending a funeral; receiving medical treatment; or participating in educational, religious, or work-related functions.
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i personally find it very hard to have any sympathy for the dad. my heart goes out to the little girl. and something tells me something doesn't smell right about the whole thing. but he ultimately made the choice of drugs OVER his own flesh and blood
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Jeez let the girl see her Dad one last time for christ sake.

Put all the BS and politics aside, this is a dying 10 year old who just wants to see her father one last time.
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Well, one could make the argument that his irresponsible decisions are what's ultimately punishing his daughter.
Absolutely. His decisions and actions caused him to be incarcerated and absent at the time of his daughter's need.

The state, by denying the visitation and asserting these are not "extraordinary circumstances", is excerbating the harm by refusing to act humanely.

So - yes. His own decisions caused the initial and continuing harm but the state, acting on my behalf, is being merciless in its punishment and needlessly aggravating an already painful situation for an innocent girl. Sorry, I would hope that appropriate mercy is quality we would like to demonstrate to our youth.
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Absolutely. His decisions and actions caused him to be incarcerated and absent at the time of his daughter's need.

The state, by denying the visitation and asserting these are not "extraordinary circumstances", is excerbating the harm by refusing to act humanely.

So - yes. His own decisions caused the initial and continuing harm but the state, acting on my behalf, is being merciless in its punishment and needlessly aggravating an already painful situation for an innocent girl. Sorry, I would hope that appropriate mercy is quality we would like to demonstrate to our youth.
I definitely agree
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Absolutely. His decisions and actions caused him to be incarcerated and absent at the time of his daughter's need.

The state, by denying the visitation and asserting these are not "extraordinary circumstances", is excerbating the harm by refusing to act humanely.

So - yes. His own decisions caused the initial and continuing harm but the state, acting on my behalf, is being merciless in its punishment and needlessly aggravating an already painful situation for an innocent girl. Sorry, I would hope that appropriate mercy is quality we would like to demonstrate to our youth.
Based on an earlier article, the family is asking for his sentence to be modified, which the prison administration does not have the authority to do. Based on the information given, the family's petition should be addressed by the federal court that sentenced him, not the prison.

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Officials at the Federal Prison Camp are sensitive to the request from inmate Yaeger and his family to allow him to visit his daughter. In response to inmate Yeager's request, he has been escorted by prison staff on three separate occasions to allow him to be with his daughter during this difficult time. Two of these trips have occurred within the past month. We have also assisted inmate Yaeger in maintaining telephonic contact with his family and daughter.

The Bureau of Prisons routinely utilizes furloughs and escorted trips in response to family emergencies, whichever is deemed most appropriate based on a review of security and safety concerns for both the inmate involved and the community.

Bureau of Prisons officials have reviewed inmate Yaeger's request for a compassionate release and have determined his situation does not meet the criteria set forth by the Bureau of Prisons Program ... Inmate Yaeger's request for extended placement in a Residential Re-entry Center is currently in litigation; therefore, we are unable to comment further on this request.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons does not have the authority to release or suspend a court imposed sentence. Our agency's mission is to protect society by confining offenders in controlled environments of prisons and community-based facilities, which are safe, humane and appropriately secure.
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Based on an earlier article, the family is asking for his sentence to be modified, which the prison administration does not have the authority to do. Based on the information given, the family's petition should be addressed by the federal court that sentenced him, not the prison.
That, to me makes sense, and, if true, then the I would hope the judge in this matter would act with alacrity and appropriate mercy.


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Officials at the Federal Prison Camp are sensitive to the request from inmate Yaeger and his family to allow him to visit his daughter. In response to inmate Yeager's request, he has been escorted by prison staff on three separate occasions to allow him to be with his daughter during this difficult time. Two of these trips have occurred within the past month. We have also assisted inmate Yaeger in maintaining telephonic contact with his family and daughter.

The Bureau of Prisons routinely utilizes furloughs and escorted trips in response to family emergencies, whichever is deemed most appropriate based on a review of security and safety concerns for both the inmate involved and the community.

Bureau of Prisons officials have reviewed inmate Yaeger's request for a compassionate release and have determined his situation does not meet the criteria set forth by the Bureau of Prisons Program ... Inmate Yaeger's request for extended placement in a Residential Re-entry Center is currently in litigation; therefore, we are unable to comment further on this request.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons does not have the authority to release or suspend a court imposed sentence. Our agency's mission is to protect society by confining offenders in controlled environments of prisons and community-based facilities, which are safe, humane and appropriately secure.
The part I bolded seems to indicate that the BOP has some authority over this situation. Also, with whom is Yaeger in litigaton over the Re-entry Center? Again, if the BOP, then - based solely on the facts that I know at this time- I would hope appropriate mercy be shown.
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In my opinion, no. We have guidelines in place for a good reason and we don't make decisions hastily when confronted with issues like these. People may not agree with the rules we have in place, but they are necessary in order to maintain fairness when dealing with all inmates, not just a select few.
I think my credentials as a law and order guy are pretty well established. So, while I generally agree with you, I believe an essential part of our government and its criminal system is the human element which requires flexibility even within the rules. Judges and juries are expected to rely on there own experiences. Further, a state that inflexibly applies rules and regulations often ignores or acts contrary to the original intent of those rules.

No matter how carefully we draft rules, regulations or statutes, a situtation will arise that was meant to be covered, or should have been covered, but does not appear covered by the plain language of the writing.

In this case, if the plain language of the rules do not permit an expedited movement of the prisoner from one facility to another in situations where such movement can assist the health and welfare of an innocent without undue burden to the state or increased harm to the public, then a) the rules need to be changed; and b) a careful analysis of the applicable rules needs to be made so that the move can be accomplished, if (to paraphrase a Man For All Seasons) "a sliver of an opening exists" to permit the requested movement.
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Well, I couldn't find it in the article. I know it was drug related, but I'd like to know what exactly he did that was HORRIBLE.

LB, I hope you don't think I was trying to put you on the spot with this thread.
I assume then you think anything related to drugs is OK then? And even worse, someone related to meth (as someone pointed out). Meth is a disgusting drug, and like LB said, it wasn't a bag of weed.
He's in jail for a reason, and he deserves to be in jail, and it's not cause what he did was a light offense.

People need to pay the consequences of thier actions. I am shocked at how many people are willing to look the other way at his offenses and break the rules for this guy.
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I feel for this little girl but they have allowed him to vist her three times so its not like they have ignored all his request.
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I 100% agree with you LB.

Sure, you feel for the dying girl, but you have to understand that it's the HORRIBLE acts of the father that put them in this situation. So if they make an exception for this guy, where do they stop making exceptions? People need to stop blaming others for their problems...those family members should look at that father and tell him what a worthless peice of poo he is for doing this kind of thing to his daughter. It's 100% the father's fault. Not the system, not the lawyer, not the jury, it's all the father's fault. No one should blame anyone but him.
I did not expect to hear this from you for 2 reasons.

1. You have lost a child.

2. You openly acknowlege that some forms of usage are OK.

I cannot fathom how you believe that his acts are horrible, but yours are not.

I am not picking on you or trying to piss you off, but it sounds like hypocracy to me. I know that I do not need to say this, but please explain your point of view on this matter.

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I assume then you think anything related to drugs is OK then? And even worse, someone related to meth (as someone pointed out). Meth is a disgusting drug, and like LB said, it wasn't a bag of weed.
He's in jail for a reason, and he deserves to be in jail, and it's not cause what he did was a light offense.

People need to pay the consequences of thier actions. I am shocked at how many people are willing to look the other way at his offenses and break the rules for this guy.
Edit. I posted that befor I saw this^.

Ok, so because he is such a horrible person for selling a much more disgusting drug, his daughter should not be granted her death wish?
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Good points angryssg, I've got my popcorn ready for this one.
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I did not expect to hear this from you for 2 reasons.

1. You have lost a child.

2. You openly acknowlege that some forms of usage are OK.

I cannot fathom how you believe that his acts are horrible, but yours are not.

I am not picking on you or trying to piss you off, but it sounds like hypocracy to me. I know that I do not need to say this, but please explain your point of view on this matter.



Edit. I posted that befor I saw this^.

Ok, so because he is such a horrible person for selling a much more disgusting drug, his daughter should not be granted her death wish?
It's not about his daughter, it's about him. That's what people are not seeing. I already explained I feel for the daughter, but it's the sins of the father that need to be punished.
Also, while I do feel weed should be legal, if I was caught with it, I would expect there to be consequences. You can't expect to do illegal things then be able to do what you want.
I have also explained in other threads that God put marijuana on this planet for a reason, it's due to ignorance that it's illegal.
Meth on the other hand is a concoction of man, and it's amazingly addictive and kills people. It ruins people's lives. How many people has this man indirectly killed? How many people's lives has he ruined with the Meth he sold them?
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