GW Bush booed at Nationals' opener

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-02-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

For those against the boo birds, what would be your expected reaction towards a President who's approval ratings are in the toilet? Should he be cheered or should people just sit in silence?

I hate to compare Dubya to Gibbs, but how did you feel about the fans booing the Redskins/Gibbs in 2004 and 2006 when the team was tanking?

jsarno · 04-02-2008, 11:34 AM

It's not like they pulled a classless act like the Phily fans and threw batteries or anything...they booed...and last I checked, that is thier right to do so. They PAID to go to this game.
Hey, we all know I am a Bush follower and would argue to the death with a democrat about his tenure, but what are we complaining about here? People booing? Seriously? They have every right to boo, and guess what, it's really no big deal.
As the President of the most powerful country in the world, you need to have extremely thick skin...I'm sure he expected it.

Now if they chanted F.U. or something...then I could see the uproar.

Mattyk · 04-02-2008, 11:34 AM

So because he's there promoting baseball he should be given a pass? If he was booed at a charity event I could understand, but he's at a game where cheering and booing is common place.

Mattyk · 04-02-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to compare Dubya to Gibbs, but how did you feel about the fans booing the Redskins/Gibbs in 2004 and 2006 when the team was tanking?

I didn't like to see it only because I'm a huge fan of his but it certainly wasn't unexpected or not deserved. Even Gibbs would say that he wasn't doing a good job and probably deserved it.

jsarno · 04-02-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that people don't understand WHY the President was there, but the problem is that a bunch of simpletons don't want to make the distinction.

Should I be against/show disrespect for President Clinton's efforts to help raise money for rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina because I feel that he made a few boneheaded moves while he was the president? Why would this event with GW Bush be any different?

I don't live in the area, nor did I watch sportscenter on this, but I am unsure as to WHY he was there other than to throw out the first pitch. Please enlighten me if I am incorrect.

Hog1 · 04-02-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course not, why would I? It wasn't their decision to go to war.

Hmmm, how to phrase.......
I would not boo the troops, regardless of the action involved in.
I would not disrespect the Vietnam memorial.
I would not desecrate a memorial to Martin Luther King.
I would not boo the President.
Etc.
Because of the greater things they represent. How do you seperate the man from the institution? The troops from the action?
Etc.

GTripp0012 · 04-02-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So because he's there promoting baseball he should be given a pass? If he was booed at a charity event I could understand, but he's at a game where cheering and booing is common place.

Correct. People should give him a pass. That would be the unbiased, correct, intelligent move, even for those who hate his politics.

When the president comes out for his State of the Union address, the Democrats, for the most part, show a great deal of respect for him. That's in a venue where politics are relevant.

A baseball stadium is a place where politics are irrelevant. Therefore, if you are booing the guy throwing out the first pitch, you are basically telling him that you hate him as a person regardless of politics. If this is true, then I believe that they should boo, but I'm also left wondering what makes GW Bush a horrible man.

Mattyk · 04-02-2008, 11:39 AM

I'm not going to bother getting into a discussion that involves what the difference is between being against the war and against the troops. To me there is a very clear difference and if you can't see it sorry I can't help you and it's a pointless debate to me.

KLHJ2 · 04-02-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So because he's there promoting baseball he should be given a pass? If he was booed at a charity event I could understand, but he's at a game where cheering and booing is common place.

So if we saw him at the zoo, we could throw shit at him.

JK, JK, JK.

Mattyk · 04-02-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Correct. People should give him a pass. That would be the unbiased, correct, intelligent move, even for those who hate his politics.

When the president comes out for his State of the Union address, the Democrats, for the most part, show a great deal of respect for him. That's in a venue where politics are relevant.

A baseball stadium is a place where politics are irrelevant. Therefore, if you are booing the guy throwing out the first pitch, you are basically telling him that you hate him as a person regardless of politics. If this is true, then I believe that they should boo, but I'm also left wondering what makes GW Bush a horrible man.

I couldn't disagree more.

This is where I will respectfully bow out of the discussion. And this is why I typically avoid threads of a political nature.

Mattyk · 04-02-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

So if we saw him at the zoo, we could throw shit at him.

JK, JK, JK.

If you're a monkey, sure why not?

KLHJ2 · 04-02-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Hmmm, how to phrase.......
I would not boo the troops, regardless of the action involved in.
I would not disrespect the Vietnam memorial.
I would not desecrate a memorial to Martin Luther King.
I would not boo the President.
Etc.
Because of the greater things they represent. How do you seperate the man from the institution? The troops from the action?
Etc.

Because even some of the troops do not want to be there. Many of them do not believe in the cause, just like the population back home. But they are bound by oath and contract to do as the President says, so they do.

Hog1 · 04-02-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not going to bother getting into a discussion that involves what the difference is between being against the war and against the troops. To me there is a very clear difference and if you can't see it sorry I can't help you and it's a pointless debate to me.

How do YOU seperate the troops from the action?
"your doing a great job. Really proud of you. Thanx for all you do. BTW, everything you have done in Iraq is bogus, un-called for, illegal, murdeous????"
As you pointed out, it is an all volunteer army

GTripp0012 · 04-02-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I couldn't disagree more.

This is where I will respectfully bow out of the discussion. And this is why I typically avoid threads of a political nature.

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree on this one.

The final point remains that--these people were booing Bush NOT because he made a few bad decisions, but BECAUSE he is George W. Bush. If they saw him on the street 30 years from now, they would still hate him, and would probably not even be able to remember why.

That is why I call them simpletons. They lack the mental capacity to distinguish between people and the decisions they make.

ArtMonkDrillz · 04-02-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Any reaction ranging from polite recognition to total apathy in the situation would have been acceptable in my opinion. To boo violently shows a total misunderstanding of the situation, and may be a sign that people can no longer just let politics be politics.

Where did you get this from? Did you actually see this happen on TV?
I was there and I can tell you that there were just as many people cheering for him as there were booing. There weren't too many people foaming at the mouth or burning effigies of Bush.

And politics are NEVER irrelevant in DC.

04-02-2008, 11:34 AM	#47
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38 Posts: 9,534	Re: GW Bush booed at Nationals' opener It's not like they pulled a classless act like the Phily fans and threw batteries or anything...they booed...and last I checked, that is thier right to do so. They PAID to go to this game. Hey, we all know I am a Bush follower and would argue to the death with a democrat about his tenure, but what are we complaining about here? People booing? Seriously? They have every right to boo, and guess what, it's really no big deal. As the President of the most powerful country in the world, you need to have extremely thick skin...I'm sure he expected it. Now if they chanted F.U. or something...then I could see the uproar. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

04-02-2008, 11:34 AM	#48
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: GW Bush booed at Nationals' opener So because he's there promoting baseball he should be given a pass? If he was booed at a charity event I could understand, but he's at a game where cheering and booing is common place. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-02-2008, 11:39 AM	#53
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: GW Bush booed at Nationals' opener I'm not going to bother getting into a discussion that involves what the difference is between being against the war and against the troops. To me there is a very clear difference and if you can't see it sorry I can't help you and it's a pointless debate to me. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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