McCain: pathetic, phony hypocrite

firstdown · 04-07-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I have a question. Anyone can fire away.

Why is it that if a person is supporting they're candidate of choice, the other candidate is automatically evil, inept, and corrupt? Why aren't Republicans open to the possibility that a Democrat knows how to run the country and vice-versa.

We've had good and bad Presidents from both parties, haven't we? I just can't understand it.

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone suddenly turn into an Independent voter, but why is it that the 'other' guy has to be trashed all the time? I hate that.

I vote Rep. most of the time and I do not find all dems to be evil, inept, or corrupt. Take Obama. I like him as a person from what I know but I could never vote for him because he is to far left. Now Hillary I think is an evil lady and would do what ever she could get away with to get more power. So for me it can go both ways just depends on the person themself.

BDBohnzie · 04-07-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone suddenly turn into an Independent voter, but why is it that the 'other' guy has to be trashed all the time? I hate that.

I usually stay away from responding to Political threads because of this...that "your guy is the wrong guy" mentality. (I made the thread title as I did for Obama's bowling because I would have done the same title for Hillary or McCain (Replace Dem with Repub of course).)

I consider myself a moderate Republican, who votes on issues not down party lines. These days there isn't much difference between the 2 major parties in this country, which makes me wonder why there are such steadfast people who vote down the line. I also live in a state that is relatively conservative, except for 3 areas that make up a majority of the voters, so my vote while meaningful to me, doesn't mean a hill of beans when it comes down to it.

I'm still pretty undecided as far as who I like for President. I honestly think it's going to come down to the wire, no matter who the Democrats put up as their candidate. All 3 of the major candidates have their pluses and minuses, and only one of them will get to mold the country for the next 4 years. And as shown in the last several elections, this country is pretty split down the middle as to who should be in charge...which shows me again that the 2 parties are not really that different.

Last election, I found myself voting for the person I felt best represented their way of bolstering the economy and helping me out. Well, 4 years later, the dollar is even weaker, unemployment is on the rise, and we're in the midst of a recession. Whichever candidate can prove to me that they can help this country out will get my vote.

12thMan · 04-07-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

I usually stay away from responding to Political threads because of this...that "your guy is the wrong guy" mentality. (I made the thread title as I did for Obama's bowling because I would have done the same title for Hillary or McCain (Replace Dem with Repub of course).)

I consider myself a moderate Republican, who votes on issues not down party lines. These days there isn't much difference between the 2 major parties in this country, which makes me wonder why there are such steadfast people who vote down the line. I also live in a state that is relatively conservative, except for 3 areas that make up a majority of the voters, so my vote while meaningful to me, doesn't mean a hill of beans when it comes down to it.

I'm still pretty undecided as far as who I like for President. I honestly think it's going to come down to the wire, no matter who the Democrats put up as their candidate. All 3 of the major candidates have their pluses and minuses, and only one of them will get to mold the country for the next 4 years. And as shown in the last several elections, this country is pretty split down the middle as to who should be in charge...which shows me again that the 2 parties are not really that different.

Last election, I found myself voting for the person I felt best represented their way of bolstering the economy and helping me out. Well, 4 years later, the dollar is even weaker, unemployment is on the rise, and we're in the midst of a recession. Whichever candidate can prove to me that they can help this country out will get my vote.

I can totally respect and agree with what you're saying. It seems most people feel there aren't major differences between parties any longer, and as you've pointed out, Maryland and I would even say Virginia is trending Blue. Even during the primary elections, we've seen Republicans cross over and vice-versa. Definitely more so with the former though.

I think it will be close...and from I what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.

firstdown · 04-07-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I can totally respect and agree with what you're saying. It seems most people feel there aren't major differences between parties any longer, and as you've pointed out, Maryland and I would even say Virginia is trending Blue. Even during the primary elections, we've seen Republicans cross over and vice-versa. Definitely more so with the former though.

I think it will be close...and from I what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.

What do you mean when you say " from what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.

12thMan · 04-07-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

What do you mean when you say " from what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.

I've heard him say on more than one once, actually twice, that he won't condone certain negative comments from his supporters..and he called Obama on the carpet this weekend for derogatory comments a radio personality made, who supports Obama, calling McCain a warmonger.

It seems like he's going to keep all the jabs policy and issue related and not impugns anyone's character. That's what I meant by "clean".

He will and should take all the appropriate shots that he can, but I wouldn't expect much mud throwing.

dmek25 · 04-07-2008, 03:18 PM

I'm with you 12th. tell me why your candidate is the best man/ woman for the job. don't tell me all of your opponents weaknesses/ dirty laundry

mheisig · 04-07-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

This is from moveon.org great source. Thats like using something from Rush Lim. about the Clinton's.

Precisely. Anytime I see anything cited from Moveon.org, I do exactly that - move on and ignore it.

Absurdly biased vitriol right up there with Rush Limbaugh.

04-07-2008, 03:18 PM	#51
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: McCain: pathetic, phony hypocrite I'm with you 12th. tell me why your candidate is the best man/ woman for the job. don't tell me all of your opponents weaknesses/ dirty laundry __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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