Canada: Man decapitated on bus

JoeRedskin · 07-31-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

It's a human life... you would think someone (out of 30) would have thought more about that young man’s life instead of themselves and try to intervene… Or it all happened too fast... it's just sick.

You're sitting on a bus, someone starts to scream and you see someone else run for the exit and someone else jumping out the back emergency exit. What's your reaction? To calmly survey the scene and avoid the human traffic and attack the butcher? It was probably over so fast that no one had time to react.

Mattyk · 07-31-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok 30 people fled the bus and no one even tried to stop the guy. I bet now they will want to ban smoking because he smoked a cig before the attack. I still cannot believe no one jumped in.

You must be joking. A guy is getting his head sawed off by a freaking maniac and you think someone should have jumped in??

Would you have?

saden1 · 07-31-2008, 06:41 PM

Dude was done for the moment he got stabbed in the neck. As for stepping in, I would but certainly not without a weapon or at least better odds in terms of man power. It's easy to say do something, but doing something without the chance of succeeding is not only foolish but unhelpful. You're no good to anyone if you're getting stabbed to death too.

Honestly though this is the most horrible thing I have ever heard and reminiscent of the sort of things you see in horror movies (American Psycho, Taking Lives, etc). Just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach...it all seems surreal.

Mattyk · 07-31-2008, 07:02 PM

The guys be mentally ill... there's no way a sane person could do such a thing.

jbcjr14 · 07-31-2008, 09:01 PM

Wow, that is really all I can say right now.

DynamiteRave · 07-31-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You must be joking. A guy is getting his head sawed off by a freaking maniac and you think someone should have jumped in??

Would you have?

I'd have to agree with this, it's easy to say your shoulda, couldas and wouldas when you're not there but as soon as you're in a life-threatening situation everything changes. You also put your life in jeopardy (and possibly other innocents, considering the cirumstance at hand) trying to be a hero.

And it's not like everyone bailed out and let the guy do his thing, reading further into it says 3 people barricaded the doors to prevent him from leaving while he tried to swipe at them.

But as someone else said earlier, the kid was more than likely dead after the first few stabbings. People should be thankful that there was just one causality instead of the entire bus considering the dude who did this is obviously certifiable.

Alas, a tragedy is what it is. Poor guy didn't even have a chance to fight back. I feel for his family..

Schneed10 · 07-31-2008, 10:12 PM

See, here's the thing. If you see a couple punk teenagers on the street wailing on a homeless guy with their fists, then it's relatively easy to intervene. You see no weapons, you get the fit of rage from seeing someone doing that, and you take one of them down hard.

But a dude with a gigantic knife? If you're unarmed? Hard to see how you're coming out a winner, unless you're combat-trained. You can get lots of punches in and he's still standing, but if he gets one knife on you then you go down in a heap and you're helpless from there on in.

RedskinRat · 08-01-2008, 07:11 AM

Interesting....Well, from the comfort of my office and typing on a PC I'd say without doubt I would at least have a go. I couldn't live with the fact that someone was butchered and I didn't do anything. Think about this: The attacker was stabbing and then sawing at the dude. He's not focused on anyone else. It is certainly easier to disarm someone from behind than to have someone place their full attention on you.
I would hope that one person taking the initiative would have the effect of galvanizing other passengers into action.

This also would have been a good time for a concealed firearm to be used. CCW's save lives.

Oh, and if you've never suffered through the Nick Berg or any other beheading video I can tell you the knife can take a while to kill. One stab won't kill you unless it's very well placed.

Poor kid.

jdlea · 08-01-2008, 11:06 AM

This is probably the most disturbing thing I've heard in a long time...just flat out sick

firstdown · 08-01-2008, 11:10 AM

I guess I should have been more clear about saying I cannot believe no one tried to help. I was not there so maybe they all made the right choice to get off the bus. I just find it hard to believe that someone did not try to help the guy. Its human nature to step in and help others even while risking your own safty but I might have knock people down myself trying to get off that bus.

Riggo44 · 08-01-2008, 12:44 PM

Here's a link to the poor kids tribute pg on facebook. R.I.P Tim McLean | Facebook

Riggo44 · 08-01-2008, 12:48 PM

Here are a couple of pictures of Tim McLean. He was only 22.

firstdown · 08-01-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You must be joking. A guy is getting his head sawed off by a freaking maniac and you think someone should have jumped in??

Would you have?

Ok, I would have run over anyone in my way to get off that bus while screaming like some little girl!

Monkeydad · 08-01-2008, 01:37 PM

When you thought a story couldn't get any more gruesome:

The Jawa Report: Evil Incarnate: Canadian Bus Beheader Ate Flesh of Victim

SmootSmack · 08-01-2008, 02:00 PM

Beheading suspect makes court appearance

07-31-2008, 06:41 PM	#18
saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,734	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus Dude was done for the moment he got stabbed in the neck. As for stepping in, I would but certainly not without a weapon or at least better odds in terms of man power. It's easy to say do something, but doing something without the chance of succeeding is not only foolish but unhelpful. You're no good to anyone if you're getting stabbed to death too. Honestly though this is the most horrible thing I have ever heard and reminiscent of the sort of things you see in horror movies (American Psycho, Taking Lives, etc). Just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach...it all seems surreal. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ! Last edited by saden1; 07-31-2008 at 08:47 PM.

07-31-2008, 07:02 PM	#19
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07-31-2008, 09:01 PM	#20
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07-31-2008, 10:12 PM	#22
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,892	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus See, here's the thing. If you see a couple punk teenagers on the street wailing on a homeless guy with their fists, then it's relatively easy to intervene. You see no weapons, you get the fit of rage from seeing someone doing that, and you take one of them down hard. But a dude with a gigantic knife? If you're unarmed? Hard to see how you're coming out a winner, unless you're combat-trained. You can get lots of punches in and he's still standing, but if he gets one knife on you then you go down in a heap and you're helpless from there on in. __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

08-01-2008, 07:11 AM	#23
RedskinRat Born a Rocker,Die a Rocker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 6,781	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus Interesting....Well, from the comfort of my office and typing on a PC I'd say without doubt I would at least have a go. I couldn't live with the fact that someone was butchered and I didn't do anything. Think about this: The attacker was stabbing and then sawing at the dude. He's not focused on anyone else. It is certainly easier to disarm someone from behind than to have someone place their full attention on you. I would hope that one person taking the initiative would have the effect of galvanizing other passengers into action. This also would have been a good time for a concealed firearm to be used. CCW's save lives. Oh, and if you've never suffered through the Nick Berg or any other beheading video I can tell you the knife can take a while to kill. One stab won't kill you unless it's very well placed. Poor kid.

08-01-2008, 11:10 AM	#25
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,182	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus I guess I should have been more clear about saying I cannot believe no one tried to help. I was not there so maybe they all made the right choice to get off the bus. I just find it hard to believe that someone did not try to help the guy. Its human nature to step in and help others even while risking your own safty but I might have knock people down myself trying to get off that bus.

08-01-2008, 12:44 PM	#26
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,380	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus Here's a link to the poor kids tribute pg on facebook. R.I.P Tim McLean \| Facebook __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Riggo44; 08-01-2008 at 12:55 PM.

08-01-2008, 12:48 PM	#27
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,380	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus Here are a couple of pictures of Tim McLean. He was only 22. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Riggo44; 08-01-2008 at 01:08 PM.

08-01-2008, 01:37 PM	#29
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 33 Posts: 14,884	Re: Canada: Man decapitated on bus When you thought a story couldn't get any more gruesome: The Jawa Report: Evil Incarnate: Canadian Bus Beheader Ate Flesh of Victim __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

08-01-2008, 02:00 PM	#30
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